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SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19


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2 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

How do you know there are no cases around them? There is a enormous shortage of testing equipment. The CDC got caught with their pants down.

Symptoms are very telling. The primary clue is a temperature above 102.4 degrees. We have been heavily briefed on this, because of the potential consequences if it ever got started in our facility. Our testing is basically rule out, because we have influenza testing kits. So far, everyone with ILI (influenza-like illness) has tested positive for influenza A.

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Just now, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Symptoms are very telling. The primary clue is a temperature above 102.4 degrees. We have been heavily briefed on this, because of the potential consequences if it ever got started in our facility.

So kids who are thought to have the flu could have Covid19 because there aren't any tests.

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4 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

So kids who are thought to have the flu could have Covid19 because there aren't any tests.

There are tests for influenza, and they are widely available. According to the CDC, they have not seen cases of coinfection with influenza and COVID-19. It's one or the other.

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Some people have also been tested, didn't test positive then later came down with it.  About two weeks ago they were talking about a case in Northern CA where they couldn't find any direct contact the person had with someone else who would have come across it.  This day and age with global travel being as common as it six degrees of separation spans the globe.  Someone who ends up with it may not realize who they crossed paths with when that person crossed paths with someone else and so on getting back to the person that was carrying it.  All the while not everyone involved gets sick.

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So, are we supposed to give up everything?    At this rate, that's what the government seems to want.   That doesn't sound like living a good life to me.  

How can one virus, in modern medicine times, be so much different?    How can a virus originating from an animal take this long to truly manifest, in a modern era of travel, and then ramp up so quickly?    Animals like that anteater have been around for many, many years.   Doesn't seem possible, to me anyway. 

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1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

How can one virus, in modern medicine times, be so much different?

It isn't, and that is the whole point. We are not developing any disease-specific protocols, because prevention and treatment are essentially the same as the common flu.

As of right now, there are 423 confirmed cases in the US, out of a country of more than 330 million people. Person-to-person spread has accounted for 29 of these cases, or just under seven percent. 

The rest of this is unfounded hysteria. The states surrounding the District of Columbia collectively have less than ten cases. And for this, the news media wants to shut the city down.

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11 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Watching the news.  I think they are doing more harm than good.  They are practically saying don't go out, the boogeyman is out there.  And people are too scared to shit straight.

The story is newsworthy, and networks are running with it and sensationalizing it. I work in the medical field, and I can tell you for a fact that we haven't changed one thing about the way that we operate as a result of COVID-19. The challenge has been dealing with the panic of the people around us, who have been getting their information from said media.

We participated in a nationwide telephone conference last Thursday with the CDC, that included just about every expert who they could round up (there were 8-10 presenters). There was not one thing in the entire presentation that was surprising or, for us at least, new information. You still wash your hands, you still wipe down environmental surfaces, and you still avoid people who are coughing or sneezing. You don't wear an N95 mask everywhere that you go, and you don't isolate in your house.

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4 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Then go out and live your life.  If other people want to be safe, let them do what they want.

That's the thing. We are safe as it is.

I am just passing along what the CDC is telling people on the front lines in this thing - and we are the most likely to be exposed. If you want to hole up in your house, go ahead.

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14 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

As of right now, there are 423 confirmed cases in the US, out of a country of more than 330 million people. Person-to-person spread has accounted for 29 of these cases, or just under seven percent. 

688 as of this post. 236 from this weekend alone according to The NY Times. 
 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

 

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7 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

The story is newsworthy, and networks are running with it and sensationalizing it. I work in the medical field, and I can tell you for a fact that we haven't changed one thing about the way that we operate as a result of COVID-19. The challenge has been dealing with the panic of the people around us, who have been getting their information from said media.

We participated in a nationwide telephone conference last Thursday with the CDC, that included just about every expert who they could round up (there were 8-10 presenters). There was not one thing in the entire presentation that was surprising or, for us at least, new information. You still wash your hands, you still wipe down environmental surfaces, and you still avoid people who are coughing or sneezing. You don't wear an N95 mask everywhere that you go, and you don't isolate in your house.

Was talking to the fire guys today at work, and asked them about it. They said, per the ER docs, its going to explode... we all are at risk, and we all stand a high chance of getting it (in our field).... but that it will be like any other time getting sick.

I said at the beginning of this thread, and still believe, it should be taken very seriously. That said, theres a clear line between taking it serious, and toilet paper being sold out globally.

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