SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[Amazing Larry]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Natural immunity = antibodies from contracting the virus

Vaccine immunity = antibodies from getting the vaccine

I'd rather get antibodies from the vaccine than get antibodies from getting COVID.

But the vaccine doesn't prevent you from contracting Covid unless it's the OG strain. I don't understand your train of thought here.

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

But the vaccine doesn't prevent you from contracting Covid unless it's the OG strain. I don't understand your train of thought here.

I'll put it this way. I'd rather my daughter receives the antibodies for measles through a vaccine than through getting the measles.

 

[Jay]

Just now, Taylor said:

I'll put it this way. I'd rather my daughter receives the antibodies for measles through a vaccine than through getting the measles.

Excellent post.

For the measles thread.

 

[Amazing Larry]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

I'll put it this way. I'd rather my daughter receives the antibodies for measles through a vaccine than through getting the measles.

That's a completely different concept as the measles vaccine will prevent you from contracting the measles. The Covid-19 vaccine does not protect you from contracting Covid-19. For instance Rally is probably fully vaxxed, double boosted and wears ribbed rubbers yet he still contracted the Covid-19 virus.

[Jason]

Just now, Lhalo said:

That's a completely different concept as the measles vaccine will prevent you from contracting the measles. The Covid-19 vaccine does not protect you from contracting Covid-19. For instance Rally is probably fully vaxxed, double boosted and wears ribbed rubbers yet he still contracted the Covid-19 virus.

I thought inhaling the virus was the only way to catch it 

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

That's a completely different concept as the measles vaccine will prevent you from contracting the measles. The Covid-19 vaccine does not protect you from contracting Covid-19. For instance Rally is probably fully vaxxed, double boosted and wears ribbed rubbers yet he still contracted the Covid-19 virus.

Measles vaccine is not 100% effective.  No vaccine is.

[Amazing Larry]

Just now, Jason said:

I thought inhaling the virus was the only way to catch it 

He wears them like this:

[Amazing Larry]

1 minute ago, True Grich said:

Measles vaccine is not 100% effective.  No vaccine is.

It's much more effective than the Covid-19 "vaccine" when it comes to contracting the disease.

2 doses are 97% effective according to Wiki. 

Link

Edited January 21, 2022 by Lhalo

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

It's much more effective than the Covid-19 "vaccine" when it comes to contracting the disease.

Two doses of MMR vaccine are about 97% effective at preventing measles; one dose is about 93% effective.

Imagine if there was a measles outbreak for the first time... lots vaccinated people would still get measles.

[Amazing Larry]

17 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Two doses of MMR vaccine are about 97% effective at preventing measles; one dose is about 93% effective.

Imagine if there was a measles outbreak for the first time... lots vaccinated people would still get measles.

It still doesn't change the fact the Covid-19 vaccine will not prevent the spread of Covid-19. 

[Jason]

7 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

It still doesn't change the fact the Covid-19 vaccine will not prevent the spread of Covid-19. 

From the start they sold the vaccine as a way to prevent serious Illness and death. It has done that so far. 

[Amazing Larry]

81% of CA is vaxxed yet over 7 million people in this state have contracted Covid over the past 8 weeks.

https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/

[Jason]

Just now, Lhalo said:

81% of CA is vaxxed yet over 7 million people in this state have contracted Covid over the past 8 weeks.

https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/

This is why I am fully opposed to a mandate as the vaccine will not stop the spread. If the virus had a really high mortality rate and the vaccine did stop the spread then I might think otherwise

[Amazing Larry]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

From the start they sold the vaccine as a way to prevent serious Illness and death. It has done that so far. 

That's not true at all. When the vaccine was developed it was sold as preventing people from contracting Covid-19.

[Taylor]

8 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

81% of CA is vaxxed yet over 7 million people in this state have contracted Covid over the past 8 weeks.

https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/

And yet those hospitalized is still like 95% unvaccinated people.

[Amazing Larry]

Joe gets slapped upside the head again.

U.S. judge blocks Biden vaccine mandate for federal workers in latest blow to White House Covid agenda

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/21/biden-covid-vaccine-rules-judge-blocks-mandate-for-federal-workers.html

[Jason]

6 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

That's not true at all. When the vaccine was developed it was sold as preventing people from contracting Covid-19.

I don’t remember it that way. I’m sure there were plenty of people on social media or the MSM that said it would but they are stupid then 

[Amazing Larry]

1 minute ago, cals said:

This is false.  And will teach yourself about fucking t-cells?

(BTW, my wife is boosted and has been taking care of an infected child and she has not tested positive).

My wife is vaxxed and has Covid right now. So do her parents (both vaxxed).

[Jason]

1 minute ago, cals said:

This is false.  And will teach yourself about fucking t-cells?

(BTW, my wife is boosted and has been taking care of an infected child and she has not tested positive).

I have been around a lot of people who have gotten it in the past few weeks and I’ve avoided it. I don’t think the vaccine prevent all cases of infection but it does offer enough protection for most of the vaxxed 

[Jason]

Just now, Lhalo said:

My wife is vaxxed and has Covid right now. So do her parents (both vaxxed).

It seems to be hit or miss. My parents, sister and BiL all are vaxxed and got it 

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

My wife is vaxxed and has Covid right now. So do her parents (both vaxxed).

And their cases will be much more mild than if they weren't vaxxed.

[Amazing Larry]

1 minute ago, cals said:

Boosted?

No.

[Amazing Larry]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

And their cases will be much more mild than if they weren't vaxxed.

How could you possibly prove that? My wife seems to be having a rougher go of it than I did.

[T.G.]

So... we can round and round about this forever... and some have...

At the end of the day.  I respect anyone's decision not to get vaccinated.  I think it should be a choice.  I am opposed to mandates, but I have chosen to get vaccinated and boosted.  I did my own research, but my sources aren't social media, etc.  I read up on what places like the Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, etc. had to say about the vaccine.  That's good enough for me. I'm more concerned about the long time side effects of having Covid more than the notion of any long term side effects of having the vaccine.

What I don't respect is those who choose not to get vaccinated, but go out and get a fake card to show proof of vaccination and then go about doing whatever the heck they want.  That shows a lack of accountability and responsibility.  If you don't want to get vaccinated, that's fine.  Just be responsible with how you interact with others.

[Jason]

Just now, Lhalo said:

How could you possibly prove that? My wife seems to be having a rougher go of it than I did.

Maybe she needs you to give her a peniscillin injection?