SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[Jason]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/
haha

[Rico]

Small sample size but...

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2?fbclid=IwAR1GgWAk9xmfXVKJLUXzRxr_TeeHzGiuoHmMzqnfvTG6blyEkSovjtjpvd0

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Rico said:

Small sample size but...

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2?fbclid=IwAR1GgWAk9xmfXVKJLUXzRxr_TeeHzGiuoHmMzqnfvTG6blyEkSovjtjpvd0

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday.

This should make his enemies happy 

[Rico]

Just now, Jason said:

This should make his enemies happy 

No.  It's why I put the info down in this thread and not the Trump thread.  It would have been great if it actually worked.

[Adam]

There IS hope for our country. 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR1BmSpEOJAntZRnqD7N4oz2lQZA4DS53lly16LhITFE_-Gx_8aZnkWmTJQ

[Tank]

31 minutes ago, Jason said:

https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/
haha

LOL. there was about a 100% chance of this happening.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Boboli with Ragu sauce, Kraft cheese slices, and Pepperidge Farm salami slices

that's about as trailer park as it gets.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

The thought process of frozen food is so I don't have to prepare something.

Did you go to Hofstra?

dude, you thought i was serious about the boboli?

for shame, for shame...

[RallyMo]

15 minutes ago, Rico said:

No.  It's why I put the info down in this thread and not the Trump thread.  It would have been great if it actually worked.

I'm sorry, you're supposed to be happy about this. Please edit your posts to reflect this. Thank you.

[tdawg87]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

 

 

 

First page I agree

Yeah well if the "actual" numbers are right, I agree with you.

Dumbass.

[RallyMo]

I, for one, am absolutely giddy that the hydroxychloroquine seems to not help COVID-19 patients. I'm fairly certain that this news made my day yesterday. 

[St1ck]

22 minutes ago, Rico said:

Small sample size but...

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2?fbclid=IwAR1GgWAk9xmfXVKJLUXzRxr_TeeHzGiuoHmMzqnfvTG6blyEkSovjtjpvd0

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday.

You have hydroxychloroquineDS

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Tank, your short game and putting must have improved exponentially.

actually been working on my mid-long irons, especially my 5I which has been a terrible club for me the last few decades. i've also been working on my rescue wood and my new driver, a taylormade M5. really enjoying it. think i may have fixed something in my swing, too.

[Brandon]

It's always funny how the article can't simply say, "The test subjects aren't responding to the treatment" but also needs to include Trump for no reason.

[RallyMo]

8 minutes ago, Brandon said:

It's always funny how the article can't simply say, "The test subjects aren't responding to the treatment" but also needs to include Trump for no reason.

Agreed.

Luckily, the study says nothing about him.

[RallyMo]

44 minutes ago, Rico said:

Small sample size but...

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2?fbclid=IwAR1GgWAk9xmfXVKJLUXzRxr_TeeHzGiuoHmMzqnfvTG6blyEkSovjtjpvd0

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday.

More about this...

It's not a great study. It's not random. Patients were given the medication because the doctors thought it was worth a shot (meaning the patients were likely sicker than those that didn't get it). However, when adjusted, it seems that the medication did not help and possibly brought about harm. THIS is why we do need trials on stuff with placebos and have people willing to carry them out. If people are good with hail mary (ies), that's fine, but we do need legit trials as well. They dont have to be super long term studies, but need to know. This isn't going away tomorrow. 

We have to beat this.

[RallyMo]

Also, I'm going to be hosting a hydroxychloroquine failure Zoom party at 8 tonight. I know it's premature and more testing needs to be done, but as I always say, politics before patients.

[tdawg87]

Hahaha Trump sux! Libs 4 life

[angelinkc]

29 minutes ago, VladdyMo said:

More about this...

It's not a great study. It's not random. Patients were given the medication because the doctors thought it was worth a shot (meaning the patients were likely sicker than those that didn't get it). However, when adjusted, it seems that the medication did not help and possibly brought about harm. THIS is why we do need trials on stuff with placebos and have people willing to carry them out. If people are good with hail mary (ies), that's fine, but we do need legit trials as well. They dont have to be super long term studies, but need to know. This isn't going away tomorrow. 

We have to beat this.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf

 

I appreciate your honesty. The survey consisted of 68 year olds with 2 or more underlying conditions. Some with 4 or 5. I believe 77% who received HC had diabetes compared to 55% in the control group. I have no idea if HC works but the study did a pretty good job of shitting on HC across the board. HC group had a higher % of underlying conditions in almost every disease imaginable. I will add the VA sucks ass.

[angelinkc]

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

It's always funny how the article can't simply say, "The test subjects aren't responding to the treatment" but also needs to include Trump for no reason.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf

 

Take a look at table 2. Almost like they wanted HC to fail

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, Adam said:

So I love getting coffee out but I don’t get special drinks. Just coffee cream and Splenda. Still a recommend?

Lavazza cold brew requires no cream or sugar. Sure, you can add them but it isn't like it is to improve the flavor. 

[Crampknees]

18 hours ago, Tank said:

just wait til you see how i use exploding golf balls and the lego walk of death.

 

[UndertheHalo]

6 minutes ago, calscuf said:

I’m honestly really excited for the news stories that will be coming out in a about 3 weeks about the dummies that attended these open America rallies that have died from Covid.  That shit is like catnip for me.

 

[UndertheHalo]

It would be great if it did turn out that a massive number of people have already had it and the extent of the lock downs prove to have been unnecessary.  I don’t really care about being wrong.  I just listened to what people who know about this stuff said.  Anyway, I suspect that these early openings and the protests and stuff are going to probably end up prolonging our misery.  

Edited April 22, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[Blarg]

My hopes is the fewest amount of victims can be achieved from this day forward but I can't see this running to zero any time soon. Everything is all on the shoulders of research scientist right now. Hopefully we have the best minds and equipment working on it.