Angels the "Mystery Team" in on Machado?

[Mark68]

1 hour ago, mulwin444 said:

Yeah, he hasn't had to be accountable to this point and now you give him a guaranteed contract north of $200 million...what could go wrong?

This

[floplag]

2 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

This

douchebaggery and addiction are NOT in the same discussion.  

[Angelsfan1984]

Just now, floplag said:

douchebaggery and addiction are NOT in the same discussion.  

Addicted to being a douchebag? The guy just needs to get punched in the face, that may turn things around for him.

[Torridd]

21 hours ago, DMVol said:

Beyond the fact that Machado has a sucky attitude, it's less about the age than the long term anchor these deals have on your payroll.....whether you're 26 or 32, a long term deal keeps a team from doing lots of things over a long period of time to compete.....Trout is one thing, he is the real deal all the way around, but I just wouldn't invest 300 million and close to 10 years in Harper or Machado....just my opinion....

If you wouldn't invest 10 years in someone like Machado, is there someone you would for 10 years? 

[Torridd]

4 hours ago, Blarg said:

No.

He doesn't have to stay immature.

[Dtwncbad]

17 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

This

So if a lady married a dude who was a known drug addict and alcoholic, and the marriage failed because the addict couldn't stay clean. . .

Should the lady just avoid marrying another addict again or avoid getting married to anyone again?

[Angel Oracle]

Avoid the addict, of course.

[Angel Oracle]

Machado must idolize Ty Cobb, and endlessly watch Cobb.   He's entering Cobb territory for douchery.  

What's next, Manny?   Attack a fan in the stands?

[jessecrall]

38 minutes ago, Torridd said:

If you wouldn't invest 10 years in someone like Machado, is there someone you would for 10 years? 

Trout. Mookie. Extensions for Acuna & Soto. Bregman. Lindor. Obviously, the AAV matters but the odds of them either remaining productive for the next 10 years or being big enough stars for the 1st half that you can live with the ensuing decline are pretty good.

[DMVol]

41 minutes ago, Torridd said:

If you wouldn't invest 10 years in someone like Machado, is there someone you would for 10 years? 

[UndertheHalo]

Can someone clarify exactly why Manny Machado is apparently scary ? By my count he got into it with the Boston douches.  It takes two to tango by the way.  In the last playoffs he slid hard into 2B.  He stepped on a guys foot.  And he said he wasn’t Johnny Hustle.  Also, apparently the unforgivable sin of not legging it out fast enough to 1B on an out. 

I honestly don’t give a shit about any of that stuff.  And it’s absolutely nothing remotely near the issues that Josh Hamilton had and the Angels looked past. 

Did he beef with his Orioles team mates ? Dis he not get a long with his Dodgers team mates ? As far as I know those things were not problems.  Am I mistaken ? 

 

Edited January 15, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[Mark68]

$320 million buys a lot of hookers and blow.

 

 

 

So I've heard.

[Erstad Grit]

1 hour ago, floplag said:

douchebaggery and addiction are NOT in the same discussion.  

I'd say doing coke off a stripper while being married is a douchebag thing to do. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Can someone clarify exactly why Manny Machado is apparently scary ? By my count he got into it with the Boston douches.  It takes two to tango by the way.  In the last playoffs he slid hard into 2B.  He stepped on a guys foot.  And he said he wasn’t Johnny Hustle.  Also, apparently the unforgivable sin of not legging it out fast enough to 1B on an out. 

I honestly don’t give a shit about any of that stuff.  And it’s absolutely nothing remotely near the issues that’s Josh Hamilton had and the Angels looked over. 

Did he beef with his Orioles team mates ? Dis he not get a long with his Dodgers team mates ? As far as I know those things were not problems.  Am I mistaken ? 

 

Well he tried to injure a player in the playoffs on the biggest stage.  

He pimped a home run which should have been a double and he got a single.

He has constantly hit the catcher with the bat on his follow through and it is assumed that is purposeful.

He didn’t hustle in the World Series.  I believe that is the real version of him.  He deserves this ridicule.  If a player has a hustle problem in the post season, how in the world does that get better when you give him guaranteed money?  

[jessecrall]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Can someone clarify exactly why Manny Machado is apparently scary ? By my count he got into it with the Boston douches.  It takes two to tango by the way.  In the last playoffs he slid hard into 2B.  He stepped on a guys foot.  And he said he wasn’t Johnny Hustle.  Also, apparently the unforgivable sin of not legging it out fast enough to 1B on an out. 

I honestly don’t give a shit about any of that stuff.  And it’s absolutely nothing remotely near the issues that Josh Hamilton had and the Angels looked past. 

Did he beef with his Orioles team mates ? Dis he not get a long with his Dodgers team mates ? As far as I know those things were not problems.  Am I mistaken ? 

 

Well, Jeff flat-out said on here that he wouldn't want Machado anywhere near his clubhouse and since he isn't prone to hyperbole, that's a pretty bold statement. Do you want a full decade of headaches? Do you want a bad clubhouse guy hanging around when his skills start to erode? And from a stats perspective, would you expect a non-hustler with clear attitude problems to age well? Machado MIGHT age well, he has a broad enough skill set that it's possible. But he also may very well be the kind of player who looks at his bank account and job security and decides he really doesn't need to put in 100% effort on the field, off the field, in practice, in training...That's not a huge deal if you're 24 and under team control. But if you're expecting that guy to make ~$300 mil and hang around into his mid-30's, it's an issue.

[eligrba]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

So if a lady married a dude who was a known drug addict and alcoholic, and the marriage failed because the addict couldn't stay clean. . .

Should the lady just avoid marrying another addict again or avoid getting married to anyone again?

Ask your mom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry.  Couldn't resist.  I will be in the corner reflecting on my behavior. 

[eligrba]

25 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

I'd say doing coke off a stripper while being married is a douchebag thing to do. 

What if I don't tell anyone? 

[Dtwncbad]

15 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Ask your mom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry.  Couldn't resist.  I will be in the corner reflecting on my behavior. 

My mom is dead.  And my father, also dead, was an alcoholic.

This is fun.

[eligrba]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

My mom is dead.

Drugs?

[Dtwncbad]

Just now, eligrba said:

Drugs?

Cancer.

[eligrba]

7 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Cancer.

Have a nice day. 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

So if a lady married a dude who was a known drug addict and alcoholic, and the marriage failed because the addict couldn't stay clean. . .

Should the lady just avoid marrying another addict again or avoid getting married to anyone again?

She should avoid making bad decisions based on ignoring facts. 

Like giving Machado a long term contract. 

[Dtwncbad]

25 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Have a nice day. 

Thanks. You too.  What I said about my parents was true, but I wasn't actually trying to make you feel bad for real, just playing along. . .

[Biergott]

Uncomfortable silences are uncomfortable...

[Angelsfan1984]

5 minutes ago, Biergott said:

Uncomfortable silences are uncomfortable...

that makes me uncomfortable to think about