David Robertson

[DMVol]

20 minutes ago, Stradling said:

That is a good/fair question.  Would you rather have Robertson and Briceno or Bullpen as it is and a guy like Grandall?  

How about Robertson and Maldonado?  That might fit under the luxury tax....

[totdprods]

I kinda get the sense the Angels are willing to spend a little more than we were expecting - provided it's on short-term deals. Cutting Parker and Shoemaker was an indication of that.
Either Arte is fine spending a little more than projected, they have inside knowledge about Albert's future, or Eppler feels comfortable dumping some of this salary midseason - Harvey, Cahill, Calhoun all could find themselves on the move, as well as anyone else they may sign to a 1-2 year deal.

[TroutField]

29 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Well that makes me feel better

 

“Just because you say with all due respect doesn’t mean you get to say whatever you want to say!”

 

”It sure as shit does, Chip!”

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

AO just finished. 

TDawg would be proud.

[Angel Oracle]

58 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I don’t care for the save stat or the blown save stat but Parker only had three blown saves and a loss last year.  So he probably was at 85% save rate.  League average is around 90%.  Sample size obviously.  

Biggest issue was the HR ball for Parker.

[floplag]

28 minutes ago, Stradling said:

That is a good/fair question.  Would you rather have Robertson and Briceno or Bullpen as it is and a guy like Grandall?  

IF thats the choice, i go with the catcher  and roll with the pen as is.  The pen can be good without Robertson, the offense cannot without some upgrades. 
I still dont understand why that has to be a choice but if i must choose, offense is the greater need at this moment

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

IF thats the choice, i go with the catcher  and roll with the pen as is.  The pen can be good without Robertson, the offense cannot without some upgrades. 
I still dont understand why that has to be a choice but if i must choose, offense is the greater need at this moment

Dude, every single person knows you don’t get why it has to be a choice.  Bringing it up in every discussion isn’t helping.  

[Jeff Fletcher]

41 minutes ago, Lou said:

waiting to hear @Jeff Fletcher's comments regarding this topic 

Eppler isn’t big on paying a premium for relievers but at some point the price may become too good pass up. Maybe if he’ll take 2/12 or something. 

[popo85]

6 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Eppler isn’t big on paying a premium for relievers but at some point the price may become too good pass up. Maybe if he’ll take 2/12 or something. 

If they can get Robertson for 2/12, do they still try to sign a catcher or make a trade?

[Lou]

Robertson at 2/12?

count me in

[TroutField]

14 minutes ago, Lou said:

Robertson at 2/12?

count me in

There is no way he gets that low of a contract. Kelly’s 3/24 with the dogs is the absolute baseline, IMO 

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, TroutField said:

There is no way he gets that low of a contract. Kelly’s 3/24 with the dogs is the absolute baseline, IMO 

my comment was a reaction to Fletch's post, not a prediction  

[Angelsjunky]

Robertson makes the bullpen significantly better. Robertson, Buttrey and Anderson make a formidable trio; Middleton, Bedrosian, Robles, Tropeano/Sumotherguy round things off nicely.

[eaterfan]

I don't see it happening. I think it's just Robertson trying to get a bigger deal in the Northeast. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eppler's team seems to not leak anything until a deal is done. I don't recall anyone the Angels were rumored to be interested in actually ending up on the team. The big deal seemingly came out of nowhere, ie Simmons, Upton, Cozart, and Kinsler. 

If Eppler's not leaking it, then it's Robertson leaking it. Nothing wrong with it, but I think it means he doesn't really want to be here and just wants a decent offer somewhere else. He'll get one.

[Angel Oracle]

Who else is out there, who can bring a wealth of experience and still get hitters out, and won't cost over $8-10 million/season?

[Stradling]

Just now, eaterfan said:

I don't see it happening. I think it's just Robertson trying to get a bigger deal in the Northeast. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Eppler's team seems to not leak anything until a deal is done. I don't recall anyone the Angels were rumored to be interested in actually ending up on the team. The big deal seemingly came out of nowhere, ie Simmons, Upton, Cozart, and Kinsler. 

If Eppler's not leaking it, then it's Robertson leaking it. Nothing wrong with it, but I think it means he doesn't really want to be here and just wants a decent offer somewhere else. He'll get one.

Yea, this is totally possible, but if Eppler offers him the closing role and a competitive offer it could be enough.  These reports are not always accurate, but if he indeed wants to close, which North East team that expects to be good, has an opening at closer?  Cleveland seems to be cutting payroll.  The Phillies might out bid us and they probably have an opening at closer.  

[nando714]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Yea, this is totally possible, but if Eppler offers him the closing role and a competitive offer it could be enough.  These reports are not always accurate, but if he indeed wants to close, which North East team that expects to be good, has an opening at closer?  Cleveland seems to be cutting payroll.  The Phillies might out bid us and they probably have an opening at closer.  

Weren’t the Phils eyeing Britton and Miller?

[popo85]

There is still a boat load of quality Bullpen guys out there 6 mill or even less will get them a decent addition.

[floplag]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Dude, every single person knows you don’t get why it has to be a choice.  Bringing it up in every discussion isn’t helping.  

Silly me i thought we could still post whatever we wanted on this forum.    I guess i missed the "Stradling approved" memo 

[NJHalo]

Going with our current M-O, why not offer him a one year deal at a healthy price? This will allow him to reestablish himself as a closer (in pitcher friendly AL West parks vs. AL East bandboxes) , and raise his bar as far as salary expectations go. 

Will also allow us to see what we've got with Anderson and the young guys, and allow Middleton a year to recoup. 

Edited December 28, 2018 by NJHalo

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, floplag said:

Silly me i thought we could still post whatever we wanted on this forum.    I guess i missed the "Stradling approved" memo 

I missed the part where we were supposed to repeat ourselves in every thread because someone might have missed it.  

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, floplag said:

Silly me i thought we could still post whatever we wanted on this forum.    I guess i missed the "Stradling approved" memo 

I missed the part where we were supposed to repeat ourselves in every thread because someone might have missed it.  

[DMVol]

7 minutes ago, NJHalo said:

Going with our current M-O, why not offer him a one year deal at a healthy price? This will allow him to reestablish himself as a closer, and raise his bar as far as salary expectations go. 

Will also allow us to see what we've got with Anderson and the young guys, and allow Middleton a year to recoup. 

It would be surprising if Robertson doesn't get a two year deal somewhere....maybe he is holding out for 3 years.....

[eligrba4ever]

Robertson has certainly done good work for a decade of nearly injury-free relief pitching. However, the word decade and the phrase injury-free make me hesitate approaching his age 33 season, particularly if he wants more than two years. But if Billy trusts him, I'll go along.

[Angelsjunky]

11 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I missed the part where we were supposed to repeat ourselves in every thread because someone might have missed it.  

 

10 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I missed the part where we were supposed to repeat ourselves in every thread because someone might have missed it.  

Well done, well done.