Is Adell really that good?

[Stradling]

Yea, it would totally suck if he ends up only in the top 5% of players all time.  

[Ray McKigney]

50 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

I love this song from her

 

I made essentially the same joke back on page 4. I'm also a HUGE Beatles fan. Coincidence?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

3 hours ago, Kevinb said:

ARod 930 OPS 696 HR 

Tejada 791 OPS 307 HR

Jeter 817 OPS 260 HR

Nomar 882 OPS 229 HR

Simmons 698 OPS 60 HR 

Simmons is great at what he does. Let's put down the crack pipe on him being the greatest and once in a life time player. We have seen great short stops before. 

Not one of them can match him in the field. Comparing batting statistics misses the point. Ozzie Smith wasn't the greatest hitter either, but he made plays that I didn't think were humanly possible.

Ask yourself this: You are managing Game 7 of the World Series. You have a one-run lead in the ninth, and your best defensive players are out there to clinch the win. Which of the players on that list would you replace Simmons with? I wouldn't, period.

[Pancake Bear]

6 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Not one of them can match him in the field. Comparing batting statistics misses the point. Ozzie Smith wasn't the greatest hitter either, but he made plays that I didn't think were humanly possible.

Ask yourself this: You are managing Game 7 of the World Series. You have a one-run lead in the ninth, and your best defensive players are out there to clinch the win. Which of the players on that list would you replace Simmons with? I wouldn't, period.

I think the only name in baseball history that that could be given to such a question without laughter being the appropriate response (that includes Visquel) is Ozzie Smith. Defensively, they are each other’s only peer. 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

3 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

I think the only name in baseball history that that could be given to such a question without laughter being the appropriate response (that includes Visquel) is Ozzie Smith. Defensively, they are each other’s only peer. 

Precisely my point. The others were better hitters, but for shortstops and center fielders in particular, a big stick had better not be all that you have.

[m0nkey]

I’m on page 5 and just want to say I made the same mike Cameron point a couple weeks ago

[ten ocho recon scout]

8 hours ago, Tank said:

i know we're not even in december yet, chuck, but this needs serious consideration for post of the year.

grich, we should have lunch some time. i'll invite alex curry along, too.

The crappy thing is, if you guys go to in N out, you can only eat the fries.

"Poor tank" - nate

[Docwaukee]

5 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

I’m on page 5 and just want to say I made the same mike Cameron point a couple weeks ago

wait till you get to page 6

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

g'night y'all.  

Steam engines.

[ettin]

Jesus Christ what happened to this thread starting around page 5.

[Docwaukee]

13 minutes ago, ettin said:

Jesus Christ what happened to this thread starting around page 5.

kevinb

[Tank]

4 hours ago, Kevinb said:

ARod 930 OPS 696 HR 

Tejada 791 OPS 307 HR

Jeter 817 OPS 260 HR

Nomar 882 OPS 229 HR

Simmons 698 OPS 60 HR 

Simmons is great at what he does. Let's put down the crack pipe on him being the greatest and once in a life time player. We have seen great short stops before. 

in an argument about simmons' defensive prowess, these offensive numbers don't really affect the discussion.

[Tank]

3 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

He doesn't even begin to understand how his position on steroids undermines his original position on the very "touchable" Mark Cameron.   

It's great comedy.   

i got a fever for ChampsIn94.

[notherhalo]

we should remember Mike Cameron and what he did, after Trout leaves

[Glen]

5 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

The crappy thing is, if you guys go to in N out, you can only eat the fries.

"Poor tank" - nate

This is excellent. You're on fire lately.

And for the record, INO fries are good. Fuck all y'all.

[Inside Pitch]

6 hours ago, Tank said:

i got a fever for ChampsIn94.

Egads ... it DOES hark back to that....  LOL!

[Torridd]

19 hours ago, Dochalo said:

prospects always come with risk.  regardless of what we think of him, it's all about what the club thinks of him.  

I think that was very true of Wood.  dude came off a monster 2005 with 101 xbh.  Was very good again at AA in 2006.  Then kinda tailed off a bit in AAA in 2007 which led to a brief cup of coffee.  Then he got a shot early in 2008 at age 23 and I think it was clear to everyone in the org that he's was never going to be a superstar.  

Adell has way more upside. As much as any prospect in the game right now or at least that's the perception.  But we'll get a better idea of who he's really going to be as 2019 unfolds.  

Chances are, if the halos don't think he's overrated as a prospect then other teams have likely come to that conclusion as well.  If a team is willing to give up more for him than would have been expected based on internal valuations then he could get traded.  

My guess though, is that the team is very high on him and he's probably untouchable.  There's still a ways to go and it may not work out, but my guess is that he's an avg to slightly above major league player within 2 years at his floor.  

Doc, when do you think he'll get a "cup of coffee?"

[Blarg]

If Adell shows the same trajectory of improvement next season as last he will be at minimum a September call up. 

[T.G.]

So... Let me summarize.  Jo Adell is the Chinese Chicken Salad of salads and we wouldn't trade him for a steam train, even if Mike Cameron was the conductor.  Right?

[tdawg87]

4 minutes ago, True Grich said:

So... Let me summarize.  Jo Adell is the Chinese Chicken Salad of salads and we wouldn't trade him for a steam train, even if Mike Cameron was the conductor.  Right?

Poppycock.

[tdawg87]

I'm done with this thread. G'night y'all.

[Turd Ferguson]

[T.G.]

This thread is a perfect example of what people do when they have too much time on their hands.

All we needed was Victor Rojas screaming... "Are you serious?"

[Inside Pitch]

22 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I'm done with this thread. G'night y'all.

So, see you in 15?

[tdawg87]

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

So, see you in 15?

Nope. I'm done. Goodnight!