Mike Scioscia Would Like to Continue Managing

[AngelsLakersFan]

7 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

And ruined Brandon Wood and loved Jeff Mathis for his D. 

His D?

[yk9001]

41 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I highly doubt the Hamilton playing in the playoffs was a manger decision, it was more of a decision centered around $25 million a season.  

Nutswingers continue their perfect record here.  Nothing has been the manager's fault since 2001.  It's extraordinary.  Puts DiMaggio's hit record to shame.  Edwin Moses' 107 consecutive finals wins in the 400 meters hurdle record was nothing compared to this.  Ripken's Ironman streak?  Nuthin.

[GrittyVeterans]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

I highly doubt the Hamilton playing in the playoffs was a manger decision, it was more of a decision centered around $25 million a season.  

You believe Sosh didn’t have authority over the lineup card in that situation? Lol

of course that was a manager decision

[Stradling]

So Arte forced Dipoto to sign Albert and Hamilton but didn’t force Scioscia to play him?  Seems illogical.   

Without looking it up what spot in the lineup did Hamilton bat in?  

[Tank]

5 hours ago, IIIII said:

He is a good manager but this teams needs a change of culture or it'll be more of the same for years to come

this team has been losing because of injuries and poor roster construction. the clubhouse culture isn't the problem.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

His D?

his CERA.

[greginpsca]

The thing i like about when Sosh was hired was that he and Stoneman implemented a system that they wanted the org to implement top to bottom in player development.Before that, it seemed player development was whatever the manager at any level deemed appropriate. No continuity. We saw the farm improve to become respected for the first time. This lasted until Reagins became GM, as he liked to make trades, unlike Stoneman. It really fell apart when Dipshit became GM. With Eppler, it is starting to rebound quickly. I am not really into the new type of statistics centered managers. Stats are great to a point, but being able to see player abilities with the naked eye is hard to beat. These days teams that are capable to use both seem to be the successful teams. Stat centered teams will see inconsistent results. If Sosh does leave, i hope we get someone for the long term that understands specific stats and the eye test.

[Homebrewer]

Mike Scioscia Would Like to Continue Managing.

Homebrewer would like to continue being an Angels fan.

Both will not happen.

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Homebrewer said:

Mike Scioscia Would Like to Continue Managing.

Homebrewer would like to continue being an Angels fan.

Both will not happen.

This is cute.  

[Docwaukee]

6 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

I had a physical recently, this made me shudder.

I was hoping someone would get that.  

[GrittyVeterans]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

So Arte forced Dipoto to sign Albert and Hamilton but didn’t force Scioscia to play him?  Seems illogical.   

Without looking it up what spot in the lineup did Hamilton bat in?  

Arte didn’t force anyone to do anything. He probably meddled in the decisions and he deserves blame for that, but at the end of the day, Dipoto and Scioscia made the decisions they made

[fan_since79]

1 hour ago, Homebrewer said:

Mike Scioscia Would Like to Continue Managing.

Homebrewer would like to continue being an Angels fan.

Both will not happen.

fan_since79 will continue to be an Angels fan because he's a glutton for punishment.

 

[Docwaukee]

so owners and GM's put players on a roster, but it's the manager who's supposed to dig in and not play them?  

These guys work together.  It's not a sitcom or netflix original.  It doesn't star Brad Pitt or Philip Seymour Hoffman (for other obvious reasons).  

YK - you crack me up.  Always cashin' checks and breakin' necks.  Rollin' in with your big swingin' junk and laying down the law.  I'm sure you bring the pain like that in real life like Al Pacino taking flame throwers to this place.  You're an AW superhero.  Captain Amber Alert!!!!  

[Docwaukee]

8 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

fan_since79 will continue to be an Angels fan because he's a glutton for punishment.

 

[JarsOfClay]

12 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

What is going on here? 

I feel like I’ve been banging this drum for years and no one has listened, and suddenly today everyone “gets it”?

Maybe the realization that Scioscia didn’t ruin Kaleb Cowart is what finally pushed people over the line. 

Stradling is everyone? 

And why are the angels paying Scioscia 5 million a year if the manager doesn't make a difference? Would it not be smarter to hire a guy for league minimum?

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

Stradling is everyone? 

And why are the angels paying Scioscia 5 million a year if the manager doesn't make a difference? Would it not be smarter to hire a guy for league minimum?

I have no problem with them switching out the manager.  My point is all this blame dudes like you place on the manager is just stupid.  So much so that I hope he gets an extension because of the affect it has on guys like you.  

[Vegas Halo Fan]

2 hours ago, Vladdylonglegs said:

The only way I'd be able to tolerate Sosh coming back is if Pujols is no longer on the roster. 

My primary gripe with Scioscia has nothing to do with his management of the pitching staff or even game strategy. It is his insistence on repeatedly playing veterans who are not producing offensively, as if one day they will magically find the right formula to make them play ten years less than their age if they are left in the lineup long enough. The list of players is long, but definitely not distinguished. If he could break himself of that one habit, I would be fine with him returning. Just not another ten-year contract, please.

[IEAngelsfan]

5 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

His D?

That explains a lot.

[JarsOfClay]

Why was Joe Girardi fired if the manager doesn't matter? What about John Farrel? Bruce Bochy? 

Why are the Cubs wasting 5 million on Joe Maddon if the manager doesn't matter? 

These are all winning organizations that have won a world series recently and some multiple times, but I guess these teams are all doing it wrong and Fletcher and Stradling know more than any of them.

This is beyond ridiculous.

[yk9001]

2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

so owners and GM's put players on a roster, but it's the manager who's supposed to dig in and not play them?  

These guys work together.  It's not a sitcom or netflix original.  It doesn't star Brad Pitt or Philip Seymour Hoffman (for other obvious reasons).  

YK - you crack me up.  Always cashin' checks and breakin' necks.  Rollin' in with your big swingin' junk and laying down the law.  I'm sure you bring the pain like that in real life like Al Pacino taking flame throwers to this place.  You're an AW superhero.  Captain Amber Alert!!!!  

Puhleeze. I don't participate in game day threads. I don't participate in trade threads. I don't participate in hot stove. Not spring training. I've posted more in the recipe threads than anything Angel related.

But please. When the same old warhorses bring out the claptrap about how managers barely make a difference. And if there was a bad move, it's never Scioscia's fault.. And as @JarsOfClay noted,why are they paying Sosh $50 million of the job is so unimportant.

 

Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

can I piss on your leg and tell you I'm pissing on your leg?

[yk9001]

Just now, Lou said:

can I piss on your leg and tell you I'm pissing on your leg?

There would be an honesty about it that I could respect.

[Stradling]

11 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

Why was Joe Girardi fired if the manager doesn't matter? What about John Farrel? Bruce Bochy? 

Why are the Cubs wasting 5 million on Joe Maddon if the manager doesn't matter? 

These are all winning organizations that have won a world series recently and some multiple times, but I guess these teams are all doing it wrong and Fletcher and Stradling know more than any of them.

This is beyond ridiculous.

Don’t believe me read a book.   Pick an author that writes about this stuff that you respect.  Someone who writes about analytics, and see what they say about a baseball manager.  

[Stradling]

13 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Puhleeze. I don't participate in game day threads. I don't participate in trade threads. I don't participate in hot stove. Not spring training. I've posted more in the recipe threads than anything Angel related.

But please. When the same old warhorses bring out the claptrap about how managers barely make a difference. And if there was a bad move, it's never Scioscia's fault.. And as @JarsOfClay noted,why are they paying Sosh $50 million of the job is so unimportant.

 

Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

Forget about me because we don’t really see eye to eye on things.  So you can side with Jeff Fletcher/Doc or Jars in a baseball opinion and you choose Jars.  Ok, have fun with that.  

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

There would be an honesty about it that I could respect.

Ok, but I have to say, in that scenario, honesty would be the least of my concerns.

So, anybody know when the next AW event is being held?