Tanking

[Stradling]

If you are ok with your favorite team losing on purpose, then you are an asshole.  Discuss.  

[mulwin444]

Are you just trying to turn @Tank into a verb?

[CanadianHalo]

[UndertheHalo]

i mean, its better for the team.  i feel no shame. 

[Taylor]

Getting the #10 pick instead of the #13 pick will make a huge difference in this organization's future.

[Stradling]

28 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

[Angel Dog and Beer]

If tanking means never eating steak again and singing a cappella in front of crowds, then no thank you. 

With all due respect to Tank. 

[CanadianHalo]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Getting the #10 pick instead of the #13 pick will make a huge difference in this organization's future.

Ask Miami if they’d rather have Adell over Rogers 

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

Getting the #10 pick instead of the #13 pick will make a huge difference in this organization's future.

Could easily end up with the 18th or 19th pick if something terrible happens like them getting hot. 

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

Ask Miami if they’d rather have Adell over Rogers 

How do we know Adell would have been drafted 10th, 11th, or 12th if the Angels had the 13th pick? 23 teams passed on Trout.

[Dick B Back]

Is tanking the same thing as kating or uptoning?

[Docwaukee]

There's no sense in playing poorly to move up a few draft spots when you are clearly going to try and compete again next year.  

Grabbing some momentum by seeing the kids play well for the rest of this year would be great.  

[eaterfan]

Has anyone advocated losing in purpose? 

I think it's okay to acknowledge that this team winning right now won't help it's future as much as losing will. This team had shown it's very capable of losing without even trying.

[UndertheHalo]

And they could still end up with a nice player.  The draft is totally something of a crap shoot.  But why wouldn’t we want to have as much of our choice as possible.  It’s ok to know when you’re beat.  We aren’t putting a division flag up this year (I’m sure a bunch of you don’t even give a shit about that) we’ve all watched this for 4 months.  Doing damage in the playoffs is not  a reasonable option on the table.  Take what you can get.  In this case, hopefully more choice in the 2019 draft. 

Edited August 2, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

And I’m all for playing the kids.  They’ll probably lose also.  Which is perfect. 

 

[Stradling]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

And I’m all for playing the kids.  They’ll probably lose also.  Which is perfect. 

 

That’s not losing on purpose.  

[tdawg87]

[red321]

Baseball is not like basketball, or football...you can't transform your team overnight with a single player. Hell, the Astros spent years in the cellar collecting top draft picks and even then it wasn't a given...plenty of top picks flame out. The Angels getting the #10 pick, or #13 pick isn't going to make or break the team next year.

 

They need to move away from the Valbuena and Marte's of the world and give some of their younger guys some reps. Is Fletcher a real starting candidate next year, let's find out. Hell, let Cowart prove once and for all he'll make a great career minor league guy. Anyone else potentially knocking on the door for next year, bring them up and give them regular playing time. That's about as close to "tanking" as this organization is going to come.

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

That’s not losing on purpose.  

Well, I guess technically when the alternatives are Marte or Valbuena that is true.  It’s not exactly going for it either though. 

I’d like to see Thaiss, Rengifo, and Ward all get 50+ AB’s this.  Not because I care if they win games or not, just because I’m interested in what we have in those players.  Hopefully this happens sooner then later. 

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, red321 said:

Baseball is not like basketball, or football...you can't transform your team overnight with a single player. Hell, the Astros spent years in the cellar collecting top draft picks and even then it wasn't a given...plenty of top picks flame out. The Angels getting the #10 pick, or #13 pick isn't going to make or break the team next year.

 

They need to move away from the Valbuena and Marte's of the world and give some of their younger guys some reps. Is Fletcher a real starting candidate next year, let's find out. Hell, let Cowart prove once and for all he'll make a great career minor league guy. Anyone else potentially knocking on the door for next year, bring them up and give them regular playing time. That's about as close to "tanking" as this organization is going to come.

You’re absolutely right, again.  I’m all for DFA’ing both of them this afternoon.  Let’s move on from Marte and Valbuena ASAP.  

Obviously having pick 9 or 19 probably doesn’t make or break the clubs fate in the next 6 or more years.  The point is, the Angels get more of a free hand in choosing their guy.  That’s a good thing. And who knows, maybe he is a difference maker.  We don’t know.  More choice is better.  That’s all I’m saying. 

[Homebrewer]

32 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Could easily end up with the 18th or 19th pick if something terrible happens like them getting hot. 

Worse yet could be another year of Scioscia. Mail it in from here on boys.. 

[Chuck]

Until the Angels dump Valbuena, Marte and some of these other veteran reserve guys and bring up our prospects I have no interest in watching to be honest. Especially when Trout & Ohtani are not in the lineup. 

Ohtani should be starting against lefties too. Let him get as many looks against southpaws this year in a down season as possible so that he can make the necessary adjustments against them heading into next year. 

[T.G.]

Why do you build me up buttercup, baby just to let me down and mess me around.

The winters are long without baseball.  You wait and wait and wait for it to start and then... a few months in - it's already over. 

I don't want them to tank and I don't think they will.  They just find ways to lose organically. 

It's going to be a long, painful winter AGAIN.

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Why do you build me up buttercup, baby just to let me down and mess me around.

The winters are long without baseball.  You wait and wait and wait for it to start and then... a few months in - it's already over. 

I don't want them to tank and I don't think they will.  They just find ways to lose organically. 

It's going to be a long, painful winter AGAIN.

Hey ! I think this winter is going to exciting.  I’m very much looking forward to it.  Let’s get this dumpster fire season over with ASAP and get on with the hot stove season !  I think the Angels will be active and I think come January we’re all going to be irrationally optimistic again.  Good times !

october will suck tho.  Hopefully we don’t have to deal with the Doyers in the World Series again. 

[T.G.]

I think some fans enjoy the Hot Stove more than actual baseball.  Not me.  It's a nice distraction, but I love the actual baseball season more.