Current draft position for 2019? 12th

[Docwaukee]

I guess we can start watching this as opposed to the wild card.  

we'd have to really tank in order to get a higher spot than this as there are a lot of bad teams in the AL.  

[Angel Oracle]

Get to 10th!  Get to 10th!   Get to 10th!

[Glen]

Just now, Dochalo said:

I guess we can start watching this as opposed to the wild card.  

we'd have to really tank in order to get a higher spot than this as there are a lot of bad teams in the AL.  

You underestimate our lack of potential.

[Troll Daddy]

Didn't the Angels draft Trout with the 24th pick ... crap shoot anyways

[HaloNArizona]

1 minute ago, Troll Daddy said:

Didn't the Angels draft Trout with the 24th pick ... crap shoot anyways

25th 

Randall Grichuck was the 24th

[Angel Oracle]

Really, five teams stand in the way of the Halos tank:  Toronto, Texas, Minnesota, Detroit, and Cincinnati.

The other 6 teams are too far down (or too much of a mess) for the Halos to catch them:  KC, ChiSox, Baltimore, Miami, Mets, SD.  

[UndertheHalo]

Top 10 more achievable then the wild card !!

[GrittyVeterans]

Mediocre pick and no playoffs repeatedly. 

Absolutely brutal for a franchise

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Mediocre pick and no playoffs repeatedly. 

Absolutely brutal for a franchise

Top 15 pick let’s you have a great opportunity to get a good player !  I think Eppler and Swanson have demonstrated pretty good drafting. 

But for sure, the mediocre floating around .500 makes it really tough.  Tanking is way more efficient then playing .500

Edited August 2, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Angel Oracle]

3 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Mediocre pick and no playoffs repeatedly. 

Absolutely brutal for a franchise

It is, but we can only hope that one more year of drafting/signing solid prospects and promoting those that are ready will finally take them to the post-season in 2020 for only the second time after 2009. 

[Barrett]

Anyway we can get into the top 5? 

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, Barrett said:

Anyway we can get into the top 5? 

Not going to happen.  If we get to 10 that’ll be pretty good I think. 

[Angel Oracle]

2 minutes ago, Barrett said:

Anyway we can get into the top 5? 

Very doubtful, as the six that I mentioned either have really bad records (ChiSox, KC, Baltimore, SD), or are poorly run with bad records (Miami, Mets).  

Probable position is anywhere from 9 to 12.

[CanadianHalo]

It’s August and we’re already talking draft...

So this is what it’s like to be a Browns fan

[UndertheHalo]

The browns have won once in the last 2 years.  There’s no comp for browns fandom.  Take it easy man. 

[Docwaukee]

3 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Didn't the Angels draft Trout with the 24th pick ... crap shoot anyways

tracking the draft from 1965.  

1 - 53 matching player(s). 46 played in the majors (86%). Total of 1040.9 WAR, or 22.6 per major leaguer.
2 - 54 matching player(s). 45 played in the majors (83%). Total of 681.3 WAR, or 15.1 per major leaguer.
3 - 54 matching player(s). 42 played in the majors (77%). Total of 573.4 WAR, or 13.7 per major leaguer.
4 - 54 matching player(s). 41 played in the majors (75%). Total of 571.7 WAR, or 13.9 per major leaguer.
5 - 54 matching player(s). 31 played in the majors (57%). Total of 405.0 WAR, or 13.1 per major leaguer.
6 - 54 matching player(s). 38 played in the majors (70%). Total of 561.8 WAR, or 14.8 per major leaguer.
7 - 54 matching player(s). 38 played in the majors (70%). Total of 376.5 WAR, or 9.9 per major leaguer.
8 - 53 matching player(s). 34 played in the majors (64%). Total of 277.0 WAR, or 8.1 per major leaguer.
9 - 54 matching player(s). 34 played in the majors (62%). Total of 268.3 WAR, or 7.9 per major leaguer.
10 - 54 matching player(s). 43 played in the majors (79%). Total of 480.8 WAR, or 11.2 per major leaguer.
11 - 54 matching player(s). 36 played in the majors (66%). Total of 240.0 WAR, or 6.7 per major leaguer.
12 - 54 matching player(s). 33 played in the majors (61%). Total of 304.4 WAR, or 9.2 per major leaguer.
13 - 54 matching player(s). 29 played in the majors (53%). Total of 333.5 WAR, or 11.5 per major leaguer.
14 - 54 matching player(s). 38 played in the majors (70%). Total of 295.7 WAR, or 7.8 per major leaguer.
15 - 54 matching player(s). 27 played in the majors (50%). Total of 279.8 WAR, or 10.4 per major leaguer.
16 - 54 matching player(s). 35 played in the majors (64%). Total of 288.8 WAR, or 8.3 per major leaguer.
17 - 54 matching player(s). 35 played in the majors (64%). Total of 310.0 WAR, or 8.9 per major leaguer.
18 - 54 matching player(s). 30 played in the majors (55%). Total of 159.9 WAR, or 5.3 per major leaguer.
19 - 54 matching player(s). 38 played in the majors (70%). Total of 375.1 WAR, or 9.9 per major leaguer.
20 - 54 matching player(s). 30 played in the majors (55%). Total of 400.6 WAR, or 13.4 per major leaguer.
21 - 54 matching player(s). 34 played in the majors (62%). Total of 158.8 WAR, or 4.7 per major leaguer.
22 - 54 matching player(s). 33 played in the majors (61%). Total of 403.5 WAR, or 12.2 per major leaguer.
23 - 54 matching player(s). 27 played in the majors (50%). Total of 178.1 WAR, or 6.6 per major leaguer.
24 - 54 matching player(s). 31 played in the majors (57%). Total of 120.5 WAR, or 3.9 per major leaguer.
25 - 54 matching player(s). 32 played in the majors (59%). Total of 205.7 WAR, or 6.4 per major leaguer.
 

lots of crap shoot here is right.  certainly there's a difference between top 10 and 25 for the most part, but the variance is smaller than I would have thought.  

[failos]

Draft position doesn’t really matter in baseball. Just ask my friend, Kyle Skipworth.

[floplag]

29 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Mediocre pick and no playoffs repeatedly. 

Absolutely brutal for a franchise

And this is why our farm is/was what it was.  You cant build a top farm drafting in the bottom third of the draft without a ton of luck.
Its easy to say "build the farm", but in reality not so easy to do when you arent drafting high enough to get quality.
The worst thing that can happen is being mediocre, you will recover faster flat out sucking.

[Angel Oracle]

The past 3 drafts have seen #16, #10, and #17 draft positions.   That's not a bad spot to be in. 

The likely #9-#12 draft position coming next June isn't bad either.

I truly hope 2019 will be IT for good draft position for a while! 

[eaterfan]

From a talent perspective draft position doesn't matter a ton. You aren't really any more likely to get a good player at 9 than you are at 19. This isn't the NBA. 

But it's also unfair to compare historical drafts to drafts that have taken place under the current CBA. It's much harder for Eppler to build with late round picks than it would have been for previous GMs. The slot difference between #9 and #19 (possible picks where the Angels can land) was $1.350 million in 2018. You can sign a lot of talent in the late rounds by spreading that money out. It's equivalent slot money as the 52 overall pick was. Moving from #19 to #9 even if the talent available there is the same, allows for the signing of an extra player at nearly the same talent level.

Of course it doesn't matter if we sign a FA and lose our pick and slot money.

[BackUpTheTruck]

I wonder where the Mariners will draft next year?

[Blarg]

You guys know that Scioscia will not play for a draft pick. He will pull the team out of a power dive to move from 8th to 15th just to say they ended on a positive note.

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You guys know that Scioscia will not play for a draft pick. He will pull the team out of a power dive to move from 8th to 15th just to say they ended on a positive note.

and to be honest, that may actually be a good thing.  Especially if that run happens in Sept and occurs as a result of letting the young guys play.  

top 3 draft pick helps, but the reason teams recover from tanking is based on what they get in trade for their existing major league players.  

[Taylor]

The Angels will go on a tear in September where they win 15 of 20 games.

[tomsred]

Don't know if you guys saw this, but the Bleecher Report ranked the farm systems of all 30 teams after the trade deadline this year.  We moved up to 12th, and the Mariners are 30th.