What is more frustrating...

[Torridd]

...a team that can't hit or can't pitch?

I think not hitting is more frustrating than giving up a ton of runs although the bullpen coughing up leads is probably most frustrating. Thoughts?

 

[Troll Daddy]

14 minutes ago, Torridd said:

...a team that can't hit or can't pitch?

I think not hitting is more frustrating than giving up a ton of runs although the bullpen coughing up leads is probably most frustrating. Thoughts?

 

7 games over .500

 

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

7 games over .500

 

You must not pay attention to Torrid, he isn’t talking about the Angels, he’s talking in general.  

[Torridd]

12 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

You must not pay attention to Torrid, he isn’t talking about the Angels, he’s talking in general.  

True, it's a hypothetical question.

[Taylor]

The answer is yes.

[eaterfan]

As a fan I've found:

More frustrating is a team that can't pitch. It's really frustrating to score a ton of runs and not be able to hold the lead, but with a 2 run lead in the 8th I still have hope. Also, with a good offense I think they can still come back even after blowing a lead.

More demoralizing is a team that can't hit. Getting down 2 runs means the game is over.

[Angel Oracle]

Pitching and defense (along with timely hitting) wins championships.   Just need a solid bullpen and more timely hitting.  

[Torridd]

54 minutes ago, eaterfan said:

As a fan I've found:

More frustrating is a team that can't pitch. It's really frustrating to score a ton of runs and not be able to hold the lead, but with a 2 run lead in the 8th I still have hope. Also, with a good offense I think they can still come back even after blowing a lead.

More demoralizing is a team that can't hit. Getting down 2 runs means the game is over.

I always thought a pitcher can get lucky and have a ball hit hard to a defender or the ball doesn't hit off the bat the right way, but if you can't hit you have to hope for bad hops, dribble hits, or errors. The odds of those are much rarer.

[kevinb]

From my perspective at least scoring a lot of runs is entertaining. I'd much rather go to a game and lose 15 to 14 then to lose 1 to 0 at least I got to see a ton of offense and I am not bored to death by watching 1 hit. 

[tdawg87]

I look at it this way:

Having a shitty offense is like being an ugly fat dude (like myself) and trying to pick up chicks all night. No matter how hard you try, no matter what the approach is, you're going to strike the F*ck out. You might get a "Hi" or a quick dance here and there, but it doesn't matter because she ends up being a tranny and you go home depressed and with awkward blue balls. 

Having a shitty rotation is exactly like having a shitty offense, only you keep getting hit on by dudes all night. Doesn't matter how loud you yell "I'm not gay!", guys are coming after you hard and fast and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Eventually you go home, embarrassed and lie in bed and cry all night.

Having a shitty bullpen is like being a sexy dude with six pack abs and loads of cash. You score the hottest chick at the bar that night and bring her home. She wants you, bad. She's all over you. You start Facking her and right as you're about to finish your dad comes in bare-ass naked and rips a monster fart right in your face. 

[T.G.]

TMI.... just saying.

[Stradling]

6 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I look at it this way:

Having a shitty offense is like being an ugly fat dude (like myself) and trying to pick up chicks all night. No matter how hard you try, no matter what the approach is, you're going to strike the F*ck out. You might get a "Hi" or a quick dance here and there, but it doesn't matter because she ends up being a tranny and you go home depressed and with awkward blue balls. 

Having a shitty rotation is exactly like having a shitty offense, only you keep getting hit on by dudes all night. Doesn't matter how loud you yell "I'm not gay!", guys are coming after you hard and fast and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Eventually you go home, embarrassed and lie in bed and cry all night.

Having a shitty bullpen is like being a sexy dude with six pack abs and loads of cash. You score the hottest chick at the bar that night and bring her home. She wants you, bad. She's all over you. You start Facking her and right as you're about to finish your dad comes in bare-ass naked and rips a monster fart right in your face. 

I literally was just saying this exact same thing the other day 

[Angelsfan1984]

8 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I look at it this way:

Having a shitty offense is like being an ugly fat dude (like myself) and trying to pick up chicks all night. No matter how hard you try, no matter what the approach is, you're going to strike the F*ck out. You might get a "Hi" or a quick dance here and there, but it doesn't matter because she ends up being a tranny and you go home depressed and with awkward blue balls. 

Having a shitty rotation is exactly like having a shitty offense, only you keep getting hit on by dudes all night. Doesn't matter how loud you yell "I'm not gay!", guys are coming after you hard and fast and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Eventually you go home, embarrassed and lie in bed and cry all night.

Having a shitty bullpen is like being a sexy dude with six pack abs and loads of cash. You score the hottest chick at the bar that night and bring her home. She wants you, bad. She's all over you. You start Facking her and right as you're about to finish your dad comes in bare-ass naked and rips a monster fart right in your face. 

You know I have to ask....

What happens when you have a shitty manager?

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

You know I have to ask....

What happens when you have a shitty manager?

That's having a wingman who keeps hooking you up with crazy chicks, trannies, and bitches who end up going with him instead. 

[Angelsfan1984]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

That's having a wingman who keeps hooking you up with crazy chicks, trannies, and bitches who end up going with him instead. 

Sounds about right.

[Angelsjunky]

I was with you, , @tdawg87, the whole way, unsure where the story would lead but enjoying the suspense.

So you've got some choices. Lose the weight and maximize what you have. That would be like dumping Pujols, Valbuena, Calhoun, and maybe Kinsler, and bringing up Fletcher, Fernandez, Blash, giving Hermosillo a chance. It won't be easy and there will be growing pains, but it can't be worse, right? 

Throw in a dude every once in awhile because, well, a mouth is a mouth, and a dude's mouth is better than no mouth (allegedly). Plus, it is 2018 and all millenials are a touch gay (Not that there's anything wrong with that). And some trannies are a little hot.

Finally, let your wingman draw in the chicks and then take his sloppy seconds. Just be careful of #metoo and be a genteman.

[T.G.]

I feel like this thread has become a Quentin Tarantino movie.

[Inside Pitch]

13 hours ago, Torridd said:

...a team that can't hit or can't pitch?

I think not hitting is more frustrating than giving up a ton of runs although the bullpen coughing up leads is probably most frustrating. Thoughts?

 

A team that can pitch stays in games and can get lucky...   If I had to pick one, I think the team that struggles to hit is the lesser evil. 

[Stradling]

7 minutes ago, Vladdylonglegs said:

A team that can't hit or pitch. So the Angels.

The Angels are 7th in runs in MLB, 7th in OPS in MLB and 3rd in the AL (behind the Astros and Boston) in ERA.  

[ten ocho recon scout]

12 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I look at it this way:

Having a shitty offense is like being an ugly fat dude (like myself) and trying to pick up chicks all night. No matter how hard you try, no matter what the approach is, you're going to strike the F*ck out. You might get a "Hi" or a quick dance here and there, but it doesn't matter because she ends up being a tranny and you go home depressed and with awkward blue balls.

Does the tranny get blue balls too?

[Torridd]

8 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

A team that can pitch stays in games and can get lucky...   If I had to pick one, I think the team that struggles to hit is the lesser evil. 

That's funny. I think the team that can hit stays in games.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Torridd said:

That's funny. I think the team that can hit stays in games.

Well...  not to get technical but pretty much every study ever done has shown that run PREVENTION has a bigger impact on wins than run PRODUCTION.   But run prevention tends to bore the living shit out of most fans...   

[Blarg]

11 hours ago, calscuf said:

I would say that having a terrible bullpen is like having erectile dysfunction.  It doesn’t matter if you’re super handsome, can score all the chicks and can pitch a good beginning of the game.  

When the game is on the line and it’s time to seal the deal, you can’t do it, ruining everything and just making everyone involved feel shitty all around.  You would’ve just been better off getting blown off(out) and losing big time like the fat guy.  

This isn't all about you.

[AngelsLakersFan]

I just know that the worst combination is a team that can't hit and which has a terrible bullpen. It's like being the fat dude but also having ED.

[Tank]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Well...  not to get technical but pretty much every study ever done has shown that run PREVENTION has a bigger impact on wins than run PRODUCTION.   But run prevention tends to bore the living shit out of most fans...   

yeah, count me in the group that loves to see a good hitting team. i'd rather my team win 11-10 than 2-1. 

but in a perfect season, i'd rather have a team that can win 11-1 . . .