Source: Angels "have to be" in on Darvish

[101halo]

4 hours ago, Scotty@AW said:

I don't think the Angels have any shot at Ohtani. You guys can whip up any scenario you want, but there's no way he chooses us over the Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, Dodgers and Mariners. It's just not going to happen.

It's too bad you can't edit the quoted date, would lead to a whole other level of trolling to falsely show this was posted on December 2nd.

[Ohtaniland]

6 hours ago, Blarg said:

I don't think the Angels have any desire to spend the money/years required to get Darvish. You guys can whip up any scenario you want but it's just not going to happen.

Arte is done spending big this season. He tapped out when he wrote the pleasantly surprising but very unexpected $20M posting check to the Ham Fighters. I think any additional acquisitions this offseason will require apples for apples trade deals. 

[tdawg87]

Arte learned his lesson. He could have signed Upton but he's no longer handing out large contracts. He's looking to lower payroll and I suspect he wants to be under 150 million by next year. He's just been burned too many times by aging veterans.

[ettin]

1 hour ago, 101halo said:

It's too bad you can't edit the quoted date, would lead to a whole other level of trolling to falsely show this was posted on December 2nd.

Give the Trump administration more time they'll get it right one day.

[ten ocho recon scout]

6 hours ago, Blarg said:

The two have zero in common Scotty. 

........yes there is

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 hour ago, OHTANILAND said:

Arte is done spending big this season. He tapped out when he wrote the pleasantly surprising but very unexpected $20M posting check to the Ham Fighters. I think any additional acquisitions this offseason will require apples for apples trade deals. 

That $20M posting will be more than covered by the $50M he will get from the sell of MLBtv. I still doubt he signs Darvish but not because of the posting fee.

[beatlesrule]

I'm with the sign him if he takes a discount crew. Offer like 3/90 or 4/100.

[Stradling]

31 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

I'm with the sign him if he takes a discount crew. Offer like 3/90 or 4/100.

Neither of those are discounts.  They are in terms of years, but he’s not getting $30 million and if he gets $25 million it will be from a borderline team trying to make a statement like Minnesota or Milwaukee. 

[beatlesrule]

MLBTR estimated a 6/160 contract so yes, my offers are discounts.

Ugh, it's late. I meant 4/90 or 5/100. Frontloaded. I can't stand guys making a ton of money when they're washed up.

[Stradling]

Yea mlbtr probably did that estimate based on a regular off season. This hasn’t been that. I wonder what they projected Cozart at?  Or Chatwood. 

[Capital_Dave]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Yea mlbtr probably did that estimate based on a regular off season. This hasn’t been that. I wonder what they projected Cozart at?  Or Chatwood. 

3/$42M and 3/$20M respectively.  GIYF.

Both got identical 3/$38M contracts.  (I think we got the much better deal!)
 

[zenmaster]

I think we are out unless the bottom really falls out on him getting any offers and we present the one and only (lowball) offer. 

[Ohtaniland]

9 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

That $20M posting will be more than covered by the $50M he will get from the sell of MLBtv. I still doubt he signs Darvish but not because of the posting fee.

Arte has already committed $200M+ to fill this seasons roster. We really shouldn’t expect him to commit another $20M until he knows for sure that this current group is not just another 6-14 April.

[Stradling]

Claude, we know what he’s spent, we follow the team as well.  Even if we didn’t you’ve let us know enough to commit it to memory. If this discussion bothers you find another conversation. 

[Angel Oracle]

22 hours ago, Tank said:

well, camp opens in a month, so yeah.

Actually 22 days from now for pitchers and catchers.   Getting close

[Jay]

1 hour ago, zenmaster said:

I think we are out unless the bottom really falls out on him getting any offers and we present the one and only (lowball) offer. 

In which case I wouldn't want him. In fact I think I don't want him anyway.

[Make Angels Great Again]

This market is unbelievable.

It's almost February and all these guys are still out there.

[Angelsfan626]

Longer the market stays cold Angels will sign someone at a yard sale price 

[UndertheHalo]

i doubt that the Angels are legitimately pursuing Darvish.  But hey, we turned out 7 pages of discussion from essentially nothing.

[UndertheHalo]

 

[Inside Pitch]

Nothing about this off-season has been normal -- for as slow as it's been it's at least been interesting and everything on the Angels front has been a positive.   Anyone speaking in absolutes still hasn't been paying attention -- prolly gonna be a wild ride once one of the remaining names signs.  

There are a few guys that really would be well served taking a one year pillow contract and re-entering the FA pool next season, Moustakas maybe more than anyone.

[Blarg]

With Boras clients in the top tier it feels like he is holding back to not set his own market lower than he wants by letting one player sign a lesser contract first. 

Edited January 22, 2018 by Blarg

[Troll Daddy]

I’m on the Blargio train ... Darvish ain’t happening. I think we go into the season with the pitchers now on the roster.

 

[Angel Oracle]

3 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

I’m on the Blargio train ... Darvish ain’t happening. I think we go into the season with the pitchers on the roster now. 

 

Except to add an established late innings guy (not necessarily a closer)

[disarcina]

Darvish?  Not a fan -- hope some other team over-pays for him,