Scioscia's last year?

[Stradling]

Just now, NJHalo said:

With expectations raised, would Scioscia survive a slow start, or should we expect Girardi before the All Star Break?

Let's be honest, is Girardi an upgrade?  If you are letting him go mid-season (which will not happen), give the reigns to either Josh Paul or Brad Ausmus, someone that is already in house.  Then determine whether or not they are the right fit going forward.  If not don't go after a Girardi, go after the next guy, someone like a Omar Vizquel or someone that can be the future, not a guy who has already been around.  

[NJHalo]

25 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Let's be honest, is Girardi an upgrade?  If you are letting him go mid-season (which will not happen), give the reigns to either Josh Paul or Brad Ausmus, someone that is already in house.  Then determine whether or not they are the right fit going forward.  If not don't go after a Girardi, go after the next guy, someone like a Omar Vizquel or someone that can be the future, not a guy who has already been around.  

While I can see your point regarding giving the managerial job to someone in house, I would disagree about Omar Vizquel over Joe Girardi. There is only a 3 year age difference, so I would think his experience and .554 winning pct far outweighs your concerns about "a guy who has already been around." Plus, Vizquel has no MLB managerial experience making him a complete gamble for what could be the make or break years for keeping Trout around.

[Tank]

10 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

Fans like you continue to support Scioscia the one hit wonder from 2002. 

one hit wonder, eh? okay A-bob. we'll go ahead and ignore the most successful run in team history under his tenure and just focus on how lucky we were in 2002, and that will simply define everything about the man. 

[VariousCrap]

3 hours ago, JarsOfClay said:

The Red Sox knew it was coming so they gave him an impossible pitch to bunt way inside.

 

 

That was a tough pitch, no doubt, but an MLB player with the experience Aybar had should have at least foul tipped it.  That was on him and he blew it.

[VariousCrap]

3 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

“It was a buntable ball,” Scioscia said. “Erick just didn’t get it done. That happens.” Scioscia will blame his player's , I can never remember him taking  responsibility for his mistakes.

 

It was a buntable ball!!!  Come on now.  I've slammed Sosh for a ton of shit over the years, but he made the right call and Aybar blew it.  There is no excuse for Aybar not getting the bat on the ball, even if it was a foul tip.

[fan_since79]

"Scioscia...squeeze bunt...fail...bad!"

"Raymond, you've got to stop this obsession with Scioscia. Just stop it! That squeeze bunt was a million years ago. It doesn't matter anymore, why can't you understand?!"

"No playoffs...Scioscia...time for a change...bad!"

"Raymond, why don't think of a happy thought, something positive about the Angels? You'll feel better. Go ahead, think happy thoughts."

"Pitchers and catchers report."

"There you go Raymond, I knew you could do it. Now let's go to the casino and win some money!"

 

[greginpsca]

Girardi has a history of not getting along with the front office. With Miami, and the Yankees. I don't think Eppler will go down that street.

[Tank]

4 hours ago, VariousCrap said:

 

Two things:

1. Aybar was shit for not getting that bunt down.
2. Willits showed poor running skills getting back to the base.

both of which are always going to be sosh's fault according to A-Bob.

[NJHalo]

19 minutes ago, greginpsca said:

Girardi has a history of not getting along with the front office. With Miami, But and the Yankees. I don't think Eppler will go down that street.

But he has a history of getting along with Eppler:

“That’s my normal,” said Eppler, who was plucked from the New York Yankees’ front office. “I was like that with (Joe) Girardi. We would talk a lot. There’s times where, in January if the team’s done, we can take a break, you know. But if there’s things going on with the club in-season, talk all the time. All the time.”

 

This picture almost looks like he is the intermediary between Girardi and Cashman

 

[fan_since79]

I don't know Girardi, never met the guy, but I feel very strongly he would not pencil in a declining Albert Pujols in the cleanup spot, night after night. No way.

That's the one thing that really drives me crazy about Scioscia.

[Troll Daddy]

2 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

I don't know Girardi, never met the guy, but I feel very strongly he would not pencil in a declining Albert Pujols in the cleanup spot, night after night. No way.

That's the one thing that really drives me crazy about Scioscia.

You must be under the impression that Sosh and Eppler are in disagreement about Pujols spot in the lineup. 

[Blarg]

3 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Scioscia’s right

 

It was a called strike.

[JarsOfClay]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

I don't know Girardi, never met the guy, but I feel very strongly he would not pencil in a declining Albert Pujols in the cleanup spot, night after night. No way.

That's the one thing that really drives me crazy about Scioscia.

I remember when he first became manager of the angels, he was very audacious and confronted Mo Vaughn about why he wasn't putting up the same numbers we expect from Boston.  If you made a bonehead play or error, you got benched the next day. He was a no nonsense guy.  I really liked that Scioscia.

But Scioscia has really changed since he got that 10 year contract. Now he puts a washed up Pujols in the clean up spot and gives players a high five after a bonehead play.  

[Stradling]

No he hasn’t changed. 

[Torridd]

4 hours ago, NJHalo said:

With expectations raised, would Scioscia survive a slow start, or should we expect Girardi before the All Star Break?

I think the Halos would have to be atrocious for Scioscia to get canned midseason.

[fan_since79]

2 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

The Angels play Oakland 7 times in there first ten games this year. Nice easy schedule to start the season. 

There's rarely anything nice or easy about Angels baseball in the month of April.

 

[Lou]

11 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

I don't know Girardi, never met the guy, but I feel very strongly he would not pencil in a declining Albert Pujols in the cleanup spot, night after night. No way.

That's the one thing that really drives me crazy about Scioscia.

Here's a nice read for you. 

https://nypost.com/2016/09/19/joe-girardi-manages-by-the-book-and-its-tanking-yankees-season/

 

[Lou]

I'd love to see the reactions here if Girardi was our manager and it came time for him to make a crucial decision during a game. 

(Cue shot of the dugout)

and when the move fails . . . 

[Troll Daddy]

I have faith that Eppler won’t hire a inferior manager (Girardi) if Scioscia leaves. 

[Stradling]

My guess is Girardi’s greatest asset is he isn’t Mike Scioscia. 

[Stradling]

That’s a bit harsh of me to say.  The guy had one sub .500 season and he won manager of the year that year.  

[Inside Pitch]

13 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

There's rarely anything nice or easy about Angels baseball in the month of April.

 

Or in games vs the As...   They always tend to play close games, regardless of what team is doing well or poorly.

[Inside Pitch]

6 hours ago, Lou said:

Here's a nice read for you. 

https://nypost.com/2016/09/19/joe-girardi-manages-by-the-book-and-its-tanking-yankees-season/

Facts don't matter..    Reality doesn't matter.    If people here watched other teams as obsessively as they do the Angels they would see every manager make mistakes and follow the same patterns..    But, again....  reality doesn't matter.

[Stradling]

I love when trolls give you a thumbs down on a post because that can’t sense your sarcasm, even though I’ve been one of the biggest Scioscia supporters on here.  (Cue getting a few more thumbs down)

[Inside Pitch]

46 minutes ago, Stradling said:

My guess is Girardi’s greatest asset is he isn’t Mike Scioscia. 

Was watching MLB Network last night -- Al Leiter and Jim Thome were among the people discussing Boone and his taking over the Yankees manager spot -- was hilarious to see two pretty accomplished guys both saying the best managers they played for tended to always be the same regardless of the situation, always steady, and weren't prone to reactions or massive changes after a bad spell.  Guys that trusted their players and trusted them to play to their abilities..   They praised Boone as a likable guy who is adept at dealing with the media and who's temperament should allow him to succeed.  

But hey.... Joe Armchair thinks different, they want to see guys who get on guys and blow up all the time...so...