Scioscia's last year?

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

That decision to have Jose Molina bunt with one out in Game 6 is still a head scratcher.

Scioscia is a decent enough manager on balance, but certainly not one of the most brilliant as many seem to believe. I really hope he's not extended especially if we miss the playoffs again. It's time for a change after so many (mostly frustrating) seasons. I'm tired of coming up short every year. 2009 was a long time ago.

 

I agree that it’s time for a change.  I’m a little worried about the bullpen this year.  If you look at Scioscia’s success it’s been in years where we’ve had a good to great bullpen.  Even in 2009 we had Fuentes closing out games.  Since then we’ve had guys like him, Walden, Frieri, Rodney all closing games for us.  Then we traded for Street and he did well down the stretch in 2014, only to have the offense take a nap that series.  After 2014 Street got old and injured.  Last year the pen was solid, but I only had faith in Petit and Parker. 

[VariousCrap]

I have a love/hate relationship with Sosh, but overall there is no doubt he has been great for this franchise.  If the Angels make the playoffs this year, I have no issue with him staying with the Angels.  Just don't offer him any long term contracts like they did last year.

[VariousCrap]

20 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

I think Scioscia is gone if he doesn't at least get this team to the ALCS. 

Eppler can hire a guy who is all about advanced stats/metrics. Someone with experience playing ball, someone younger and one who understands how to properly evaluate talent in this day and age. 

 

While he was slow to do so, I think Sosh has adapted to the andvanced stat/metrics system.  Sometimes to a fault.  I think it has backfired a few times with his bullpen management.

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

The 2014 Angels lost two  extra inning games to KC in the postseason, with a little luck and better managing that team could have won the WS.  I'm sure Jerry Dipoto told Scioscia , if he doesn't play Hamilton he will be fired.

Well, with better hitting we win that series.  I am sure the poor hitting by Albert and Trout are Scioscia's fault.

[VariousCrap]

20 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

 Andrea Bocelli and Stevie Wonder could see this play coming. 

 

 

Two things:

1. Aybar was shit for not getting that bunt down.
2. Willits showed poor running skills getting back to the base.

[Troll Daddy]

4 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

 

While he was slow to do so, I think Sosh has adapted to the andvanced stat/metrics system.  Sometimes to a fault.  I think it has backfired a few times with his bullpen management.

Bullpen management is hit or miss for all managers 

[VariousCrap]

6 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

It's never Scioscia's fault, my 98 year old grandmother  called the play before the pitch. 

 

We all called it because if Aybar would have just done his job, it would have worked.

[Blarg]

1 minute ago, VariousCrap said:

 

Two things:

1. Aybar was shit for not getting that bunt down.
2. Willits showed poor running skills getting back to the base.

I agree with 1 but Willits was a dead duck running on the pitch, he was over half way home when Aybar bailed out on a strike. 

[fan_since79]

This is how some of us feel when contemplating another season of Scioscia.

[VariousCrap]

Just now, Blarg said:

I agree with 1 but Willits was a dead duck running on the pitch, he was over half way home when Aybar bailed out on a strike. 

 

No doubt it was a tough place to be in, but watching the video, I think he could have done a better going back to the bag.  But, we can agree, in that situation, Aybar has to at least foul the ball off.  Missing it like that is unacceptable in that situation.

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

This is how some of us feel when contemplating another season of Scioscia.

This is how some of us feel anytime we see Scioscia in a thread title ...

........  because we know what to expect and who to expect it from...

[JarsOfClay]

24 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

 

Two things:

1. Aybar was shit for not getting that bunt down.
2. Willits showed poor running skills getting back to the base.

The Red Sox knew it was coming so they gave him an impossible pitch to bunt way inside.

 

[Stradling]

Just now, JarsOfClay said:

The Red Sox knew it was coming so they gave him an impossible pitch to bunt way inside.

 

He only had to get his bat on the ball, he failed, not Scioscia.  

[JarsOfClay]

41 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I agree that it’s time for a change.  I’m a little worried about the bullpen this year.  If you look at Scioscia’s success it’s been in years where we’ve had a good to great bullpen.  Even in 2009 we had Fuentes closing out games.  Since then we’ve had guys like him, Walden, Frieri, Rodney all closing games for us.  Then we traded for Street and he did well down the stretch in 2014, only to have the offense take a nap that series.  After 2014 Street got old and injured.  Last year the pen was solid, but I only had faith in Petit and Parker. 

Although we butt heads all the time about Scioscia - this I definitely agree with you about.  Scioscia is most successful with an established closer that he can trust and dominate.  Having a krod/shields/percival in the pen made him require less use of his mind and now that he's forced to actually use his brain in late and close situations , it has exposed his biggest weakness.

[Stradling]

7 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

Although we butt heads all the time about Scioscia - this I definitely agree with you about.  Scioscia is most successful with an established closer that he can trust and dominate.  Having a krod/shields/percival in the pen made him require less use of his mind and now that he's forced to actually use his brain in late and close situations , it has exposed his biggest weakness.

Lack of talent at the back end of the bullpen?  I agree.

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

BOSTON — Before Manny Delcarmen had thrown a pitch to Erick Aybar in the ninth inning Monday night, catcher Jason Varitek reminded him to be aware that Aybar might attempt a squeeze bunt to push in the go-ahead run from third base. Delcarmen appreciated the reminder, but he did not need it.

During a game between the Red Sox and the Los Angeles Angels last season, Delcarmen explained, the Angels successfully used a squeeze bunt against him. In the most pivotal game of the 2008 season, Delcarmen did not plan to let the Angels victimize him with their small ball again.

Once the Red Sox stopped the squeeze play in the ninth, Jed Lowrie’s two-out single in the bottom of the inning delivered Jason Bay and guided them to a 3-2 victory and a four-game conquest in their American League division series. The Red Sox, the defending World Series champions, will oppose the Tampa Bay Rays in the American League Championship starting Friday.

Yes, and Aybar failed.  

[Troll Daddy]

1 hour ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

“It was a buntable ball,” Scioscia said. “Erick just didn’t get it done. That happens.” Scioscia will blame his player's , I can never remember him taking  responsibility for his mistakes.

Scioscia’s right

 

[stormngt]

1 minute ago, Troll Daddy said:

He’s right

 

Aybar should have just let the damn ball hit him.  Dead ball.....runner goes to first and no out by Willits.

[nate]

One can only hope it is his last year.

Angels finally have a GM that gets it, would be great to bring in a younger manager that wasn't stuck in his ways.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, JarsOfClay said:

Although we butt heads all the time about Scioscia - this I definitely agree with you about.  Scioscia is most successful with an established closer that he can trust and dominate.  Having a krod/shields/percival in the pen made him require less use of his mind and now that he's forced to actually use his brain in late and close situations , it has exposed his biggest weakness.

Yes, brainpower -- Scioscia's lack of it why mediocre pitchers fail to perform.   Speaking of exposing one's weakness -- it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt.

 

[Stradling]

No he won’t be happy, nor will he be ignorant enough to assume it’s solely the managers fault. 

[Taylor]

Although I don't have that much scorn for Scioscia, I would be fine with him "retiring" at the end of the year, and being offered a position in the Angels front office.

[Blarg]

2 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

The 2014 Angels lost two  extra inning games to KC in the postseason, with a little luck and better managing that team could have won the WS.  I'm sure Jerry Dipoto told Scioscia , if he doesn't play Hamilton he will be fired.

The GM chooses who is on the post season roster. Hamilton was Jerry's guy so he was going to play. In Scioscia's defense he batted him 7th. 

[NJHalo]

With expectations raised, would Scioscia survive a slow start, or should we expect Girardi before the All Star Break?

[Stradling]

11 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Although I don't have that much scorn for Scioscia, I would be fine with him "retiring" at the end of the year, and being offered a position in the Angels front office.

I completely agree.