Jerry Dipoto

[UndertheHalo]

On 12/13/2017 at 1:55 PM, Inside Pitch said:

 

1.5 mil so far for a guy they traded away last year and a 27 year old RP who is out of options.   

He personally scouted then though. 

[ukyah]

instead of trading the money away for scraps, why not just sign jelfry marte yourself? he signed for 800,000, you don't think that he would have signed for 1.5, dipoto? that seems impossible to believe.  what if marte shined the mariners, as well, but there was no media coverage of it? hilarious.

[T.G.]

Oh... Jerrrrrrrry....

[Angel Oracle]

Uhh Diputrid, I hear it's not so bad fighting the A'th to avoid the AL West cellar? 

[totdprods]

12 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Uhh Diputrid, I hear it's not so bad fighting the A'th to avoid the AL West cellar? 

I actually think A's are due for one of their resurgent seasons. Rangers and Mariners are just as likely as the A's to crash. 

[Docwaukee]

interesting article on what Dipoto thinks he's done.  

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/should-the-mariners-start-over-with-their-roster-gm-jerry-dipoto-says-he-already-has-with-a-twist/

[Tyler]

LOL

If he wasn't a fan of himself I'm not sure he'd have any.

[greginpsca]

On 12/15/2017 at 12:04 PM, totdprods said:

I actually think A's are due for one of their resurgent seasons. Rangers and Mariners are just as likely as the A's to crash. 

With Khris Davis, Olson, Chapman,Piscotty,They have a pretty good nucleaus to their lineup. Pitching will dictate how good they will be. I think they might be better than the Mariners. As Seattle's core of Cruz, Cano, Seager, Fernandez is getting older. I could see the A's as high as 3rd in the division. 

[Jobu]

He alludes to pitching injuries and resulting instability being the root of their issues last year. They certainly used more starters (17 vs 11) and more pitchers overall (40 vs 31) than the Angels, who we generally agree had some awful pitching luck. Is there anything to this? 

[Angel Oracle]

Never change Diputrid, never change.

[Docwaukee]

33 minutes ago, Jobu said:

He alludes to pitching injuries and resulting instability being the root of their issues last year. They certainly used more starters (17 vs 11) and more pitchers overall (40 vs 31) than the Angels, who we generally agree had some awful pitching luck. Is there anything to this? 

They used more pitchers, but still got a fair amount (not a ton mind you) of meaningful starts from their core guys

Miranda, Paxton, Gallardo, Hernandez, Ramirez made 117 starts.  They'll have Leake replace Gallardo in 2018.  

Our optimal core would have been Richards, Shoe Skaggs, Heaney, and Meyer - they made 54 starts.  Bridwell isn't likely to be as good as he was in 2017, but JC Ramirez has a good chance to be the same if not a tick better and they accounted for 44.  Otherwise, the rest of those starts from Nolasco, Chavez etc. ie 64 starts as well as likely half of those from Ramirez/Bridwell, are going to get eaten up by Ohtani, Richards, Shoe, Skaggs and Heaney.  It would be great if those 5 made a total of 125 starts.  With the other 35 from guys like Ramirez, Bridwell, Tropeano and Barria.  

I could see Leake doing well for them, but based on who they have returning, I don't see a ton of improvement if at all.  Whereas for the halos, there could be tremendous and at the very least decent improvement.  

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, Jobu said:

He alludes to pitching injuries and resulting instability being the root of their issues last year. They certainly used more starters (17 vs 11) and more pitchers overall (40 vs 31) than the Angels, who we generally agree had some awful pitching luck. Is there anything to this? 

Isn't that because two 9 of our top pitchers didn't pitch at all.thus not counted in the 11.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 12/8/2017 at 8:29 PM, GOPSnowflakesHateCezero said:

i hate him, and i hate myself for thinking he and the new ownership group had a comprehensive rebuilding plan

got rid of directv ($1400/year), and literally have no choice but to get mlb.tv ($100/year) and find a new team to root for since my regional network refuses to work with any a la cart providers

not sure if it can be the angels, but i'm going to be watching a ton of baseball in april to get it all worked out

You're welcome to join us if you like.

Don't be too hard on yourself about Dipoto. Arte Moreno was duped into hiring him, and a lot of us believed that he was some undiscovered genius who would rebuild the team. He has a way of making you believe that he is the smartest guy in the room, then you see the senseless personnel moves that make you say...What? He apparently went all in on Ohtani, and when he signed with the Angels, he didn't have a Plan B. It absolutely baffles me that he plans for Dee Gordon to be their center fielder.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

interesting article on what Dipoto thinks he's done.  

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/should-the-mariners-start-over-with-their-roster-gm-jerry-dipoto-says-he-already-has-with-a-twist/

He's good at spin.  

[Jobu]

17 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Isn't that because two 9 of our top pitchers didn't pitch at all.thus not counted in the 11.

The 11 includes: Nolasco, Ramirez, Chavez, Bridwell, Skaggs, Shoemaker, Meyer, Richards, Scribner, Heaney, and Wright. 

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Jobu said:

He alludes to pitching injuries and resulting instability being the root of their issues last year. They certainly used more starters (17 vs 11) and more pitchers overall (40 vs 31) than the Angels, who we generally agree had some awful pitching luck. Is there anything to this? 

They used more because he does a shittier job of getting quality scrubs...  As a result they had a much larger churn.   They had four guys make one start and get lit up....   Ironically, the one guy they did have success with and he's talked up a few times as one of the dudes that's lessened the need to acquire a starter, Andrew Albers...  just asked for his release to pursue a gig in Japan.

[eligrba]

On 12/8/2017 at 8:29 PM, GOPSnowflakesHateCezero said:

i hate him, and i hate myself for thinking he and the new ownership group had a comprehensive rebuilding plan

got rid of directv ($1400/year), and literally have no choice but to get mlb.tv ($100/year) and find a new team to root for since my regional network refuses to work with any a la cart providers

not sure if it can be the angels, but i'm going to be watching a ton of baseball in april to get it all worked out

Could be worse......give me a few minutes to think of some things......

[eligrba]

On 12/8/2017 at 8:29 PM, GOPSnowflakesHateCezero said:

i hate him, and i hate myself for thinking he and the new ownership group had a comprehensive rebuilding plan

got rid of directv ($1400/year), and literally have no choice but to get mlb.tv ($100/year) and find a new team to root for since my regional network refuses to work with any a la cart providers

not sure if it can be the angels, but i'm going to be watching a ton of baseball in april to get it all worked out

I can respect that, as long as you do not become a Rangers fan, or an A's fan, or Houston, or the Yankees, or Red Sox, or Dodgers.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

They used more because he does a shittier job of getting quality scrubs...  As a result they had a much larger churn.   They had four guys make one start and get lit up....   Ironically, the one guy they did have success with and he's talked up a few times as one of the dudes that's lessened the need to acquire a starter, Andrew Albers...  just asked for his release to pursue a gig in Japan.

Its funny that the same time japanese guys dont want to go there, dudes there want to leave and go to japan.

[Troll Daddy]

What if Dipoto traded Mike Trout for Matt Kemp because the team already had Bourjeous in CF

 

[Tank]

^^^^^

this picture is like looking back at your yearbook from 5th grade when you had a mouth full of braces, glasses, and the beginnings of acne, and trying to put a positive spin by saying "well at least my hair looked nice."

[ukyah]

i'm sorry, jerry. i don't hate you like many here, but that's spin, spin, spin.

the mariners are in a very bad place as an organization. one eerily similar to what the angels have just dug themselves out of, and you were in charge for both situations in each organization.

 

[Angel Oracle]

Someone still needs to remind Diputrid that he isn't paid by the trade/signing. 

[Jobu]

So what about his assertion that he's made the roster younger around Cano, Feliz, and Cruz? Younger roster sounds like a euphemism for cheaper roster, but maybe there's some stats showing correlation with youth and success? Seems unlikely... Probably the opposite even. 

[well_red]