Weaver gets into the Angels HOF?

[notherhalo]

Does it happen?

[Dick B Back]

Absolutely!

[Sully151]

Hall of Fame, yes. Number retired, no.

[JustATroutFan]

Yes, arguably the best pitcher in Angels history. Had a lot of great years with the team. Pretty underrated as well.

[Tank]

14 minutes ago, JustATroutFan said:

Yes, arguably the best pitcher in Angels history. Had a lot of great years with the team. Pretty underrated as well.

nolan ryan says hello.

that you don't know this is mind-boggling (or else you're incredibly young, which is hardly an excuse for this topic).

Edited December 3, 2017 by Tank

[Taylor]

39 minutes ago, Sully151 said:

Hall of Fame, yes. Number retired, no.

It's been ages since the Angels retired a number. I wonder how long they're going to wait to retire Salmon's, GA's, and others' numbers.

[ettin]

I absolutely think so yes.

[Angelsjunky]

I'd rate the all-time best Angels pitchers as follows (Angels careers only):

1. Nolan Ryan

2. Chuck Finley

3. Jered Weaver

4. Mike Witt

5. Frank Tanana

6. John Lackey

7. Dean Chance

8. Mark Langston

 

After that it gets dicey. Anyhow, even if you're more bullish on Jered, he still belongs in the top 5 all-time pitchers, so if the top 5 all-time Angels starters don't belong in the Angels Hall of Fame, I don't know who does.

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

nolan ryan says hello.

that you don't know this is mind-boggling (or else you're incredibly young, which is hardly an excuse for this topic).

Where does Tanana, Chance, and Finley fall into that category.

I am not questioning Weavers greatness, just it seemed rather short lived.  Could be wrong.

[Tank]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

It's been ages since the Angels retired a number. I wonder how long they're going to wait to retire Salmon's, GA's, and others' numbers.

I'm still wondering why they haven't retired 15 and 16 yet. Why the delay?

[California Cajun]

Yes!

[Second Base]

So prestigious! I'm pretty sure Jered doesn't care if he's honored. He was awesome either way.

[Erstad Grit]

Love weaver but Finley is a click better in my book.  

[Lou]

2 hours ago, Tank said:

I'm still wondering why they haven't retired 15 and 16 yet. Why the delay?

I think we know the reason for #16

52 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

So prestigious! I'm pretty sure Jered doesn't care if he's honored. He was awesome either way.

I bet he does.

[tdawg87]

I bet he may or may not care.

[Second Base]

6 hours ago, Lou said:

I think we know the reason for #16

I bet he does.

He always seemed to care less about being a Cy Young finalist.

[Puget Sound Angel]

Angels HOF sure.

I'm always of the belief that you do not retire a players number unless they make the baseball HOF. You want retired numbers to mean something and not do it because it feels warm and fuzzy.

[JustATroutFan]

14 hours ago, Tank said:

nolan ryan says hello.

that you don't know this is mind-boggling (or else you're incredibly young, which is hardly an excuse for this topic).

That is why I said "arguably". I knew Ryan pitched for the Angels and had a decent amount of good seasons but so did Weaver. I just don't remember how many good seasons Ryan had with the Angels.

[Lou]

7 hours ago, Scotty@AW said:

He always seemed to care less about being a Cy Young finalist.

A good quality silk tie will require approximately 110 silkworm cocoons

[ten ocho recon scout]

20 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

I'd rate the all-time best Angels pitchers as follows (Angels careers only):

1. Nolan Ryan

2. Chuck Finley

3. Jered Weaver

4. Mike Witt

5. Frank Tanana

6. John Lackey

7. Dean Chance

8. Mark Langston

 

After that it gets dicey. Anyhow, even if you're more bullish on Jered, he still belongs in the top 5 all-time pitchers, so if the top 5 all-time Angels starters don't belong in the Angels Hall of Fame, I don't know who does.

Does ervin santana make it in the top 10? Im not saying he does, just wondering who wed slot in front of him.

[red321]

Yes, Weaver makes the HoF, but no number retired...those rightly should be limited to truly the elite not just for the Halos, but baseball in general. In fact I would probably hesitate at Salmon or GA having numbers retired.

[Angel Oracle]

I might flip Fin (to #3) and Weave (to #2).

Weave had two less seasons as a starter here, but his best 2 seasons (2011-12) definitely trumped Fin’s and he contributed to three straight AL West titles.

[Dick B Back]

12 hours ago, Puget Sound Angel said:

Angels HOF sure.

I'm always of the belief that you do not retire a players number unless they make the baseball HOF. You want retired numbers to mean something and not do it because it feels warm and fuzzy.

So if Vlad gets voted in and goes in with an Angels uni, do you retire the number and tell Trout he's outta luck and has to pick another number?

[Tank]

12 hours ago, JustATroutFan said:

That is why I said "arguably". I knew Ryan pitched for the Angels and had a decent amount of good seasons but so did Weaver. I just don't remember how many good seasons Ryan had with the Angels.

it's not even arguable. 

here, educate yourself a bit: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ryanno01.shtml

[WeatherWonk]

On 12/3/2017 at 10:23 AM, notherhalo said:

Does it happen?

Sure. But kind of a low bar. 

Now that Ryan passed on entering as an Angel, and with the advent of free agency, I wonder if the Angels will ever get a pitcher to enter wearing an Angel cap. Odds are against it, I would think. Maybe a reliever.