The Official 2017-2018 Hot Stove Thread

[mulwin444]

5 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

Martinez was demanding 7/210.  Red Sox stuck to their guns and gave him a reasonable contract for his skills.

Upton and Martinez ended up signing for almost identical amounts and I like Upton's overall game better.  

[floplag]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Red Sox got a good deal.  Lets see what Arrieta gets, but my guess is he gets about the same as JD or the same as Darvish, somewhere in there.  As for Moustakas, poor guy, he had his career year in a year where no one needed a 3rd baseman except for us and we went with defensive athlete over power.  

I think the Boras factor hurt him as well, people are tired of the games.  
I also still think it could be possible as both of us have suggested for us to get him, might even be wise to do so with Machado going SS long term per his own comments

1 minute ago, mulwin444 said:

Upton and Martinez ended up signing for almost identical amounts and I like Upton's overall game better.  

Agreed, 100%  

[bloodbrother]

Wish the Angels signed Dyson for this instead of Chris Young. Would have given them a LH bat, excellent defensive CFer and has elite speed

 

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, bloodbrother said:

Wish the Angels signed Dyson for this instead of Chris Young. Would have given them a LH bat, excellent defensive CFer and has elite speed

 

Me too, but at $3.75 million a year for a guy that won't get many at bats, I get why we didn't.  Hell even Revere might have been a better addition.  But if Young can do what he did in 2016 we will be quite happy with him.  

[nando714]

16 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Me too, but at $3.75 million a year for a guy that won't get many at bats, I get why we didn't.  Hell even Revere might have been a better addition.  But if Young can do what he did in 2016 we will be quite happy with him.  

I don’t get why people are counting EY out ? Young is only getting 2m. If he sucks and EY is playing well I wouldn’t be shocked if the angels let Young go 

[Stradling]

Just now, nando714 said:

I don’t get why people are counting EY out ? Young is only getting 2m. If he sucks and EY is playing well I wouldn’t be shocked if the angels let Young go 

He did pretty good for us last year and he did really well out of the gate.  

[totdprods]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

He did pretty good for us last year and he did really well out of the gate.  

And really bad after he got out of sight of the gate.

First 16 games (64 PA): .333/.429/.556/.984, 3 HR, 5 BB, 11 K, 6 SB, .375 BAbip
Last 30 games (61 PA): .196/.237/.286/.523, 1 HR, 0 BB, 20 K, 6 SB, .286 BAbip

That's a Chris Carter-esque K% his second 'half'. 

EY Jr. is great as AAA depth off-roster that can be recalled to fill 4th OF if someone gets hurt. It's not painful DFA'ing him after his use is up. I could see him bumping CYoung if he's killing it at SLC and Chris isn't cutting it in Anaheim, but it was the right move to make in Spring Training to preserve OF depth. I like how Young hits againt lefties too...that could help a lot if Calhoun struggles against lefties, and on paper stands to be more helpful than EY Jr.'s skill set.

[Angel Oracle]

Good to see that the original Bora$$ demands were not nearly met, the owners are getting wiser.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, mulwin444 said:

I'm seeing 5/$105 mil being rumored on Twitter 

That would be a steal.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

3 hours ago, floplag said:

I think the Boras factor hurt him as well, people are tired of the games.  
I also still think it could be possible as both of us have suggested for us to get him, might even be wise to do so with Machado going SS long term per his own comments

 

No loss of draft pick either.

[floplag]

57 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

No loss of draft pick either.

that too... honestly this scream do it to me if he would be willing, makes too much sense.  so it wont happen

[VariousCrap]

5 hours ago, mulwin444 said:

Upton and Martinez ended up signing for almost identical amounts and I like Upton's overall game better.  

 

Without a doubt.  Martinez will be a full time DH after two seasons.  Upton will still be playing in the OF.

 

 

[popo85]

Comparing Upton and Martinez career numbers

 

Upton age 30 war 32.4 all stars 4 has played 6 seasons over 150 games avg 270 28 hr 88 rbis 15sb .828 ops 4 top 25 MVP seasons

Martinez age 30 war 13.7 all stars 1 has played 1 season over 150 games avg 285 32 hr 100 rbis 3sb .857 ops 2 top 25 MVP seasons

 

 

[totdprods]

Three way trade...Rays send Souza to Arizona, Yanks get INF Brandon Drury, and Rays get a top NYY 2B prospect and ARI LHP Anthony Banda.

The Dickerson DFA is even stranger now, and the Rays have even more LHP depth - I think the Angels will get one back as the PTBNL for Cron.

[bloodbrother]

Three-way trade between Yankees/Rays/DBacks. Rays look to be following in the Marlins footsteps by selling off any of their vets

 

[bloodbrother]

 

[totdprods]

Teeniest increase in chance that Solak or Brandon Lowe as Cron return too. Rays are stocked with MIF prospects and organizational LHP depth.

I've never considered the Angels to be in the mix for Archer or Colome but starting to wonder...trade return has been awfully light this offseason and the Rays starting to look awfully inclined to make deals.

[jordan]

Ok, now I’m ready to push for Archer to the Halos. Make it happen Eppler. 

[totdprods]

NYY also far less likely to land Moustakas or Walker now.

[nando714]

Yankees got better. Yankees are better at 3rd base now than they were last season. 

Souza and Dyson try to replace JDM as much as they can. Souza hit 30 bombs last year and stole 15. 

[nando714]

25 minutes ago, totdprods said:

NYY also far less likely to land Moustakas or Walker now.

Moose gonna wind up in St Louis? Back to KC on a 1 year deal?

[Vlad27Trout27]

39 minutes ago, jordan said:

Ok, now I’m ready to push for Archer to the Halos. Make it happen Eppler. 

Could definitely see Eppler make the Rays Budge, I can say only a few team at this point are interested in Archer. The Yankee's, Nats and maybe Dodgers. 

Something on the lines of- Cron, Jones/ Marsh, Barria and a 2 other prospects. 

  

[Troll Daddy]

15 minutes ago, nando714 said:

Moose gonna wind up in St Louis? Back to KC on a 1 year deal?

I like KC 5 yrs

[totdprods]

18 minutes ago, nando714 said:

Moose gonna wind up in St Louis? Back to KC on a 1 year deal?

I'm gonna guess he signs with Atlanta for 1-yr, maybe with an option, or a 3-yr with an opt out after first and second year

[Troll Daddy]

Just now, totdprods said:

I'm gonna guess he signs with Atlanta for 1-yr.

Why would they lose a draft pick(s) for a 1 yr deal