The Official 2017-2018 Hot Stove Thread

[WeaverFever]

Are we going to go with 0 lefties again this season? 

[DMVol]

On 2/15/2018 at 5:11 PM, Chuckster70 said:

Blue Jays agreed to terms with LHP Jaime Garcia on a one-year, $8 million contract with an option for 2019.

Best value deal of the winter....

[DMVol]

On 2/15/2018 at 5:11 PM, Chuckster70 said:

Blue Jays agreed to terms with LHP Jaime Garcia on a one-year, $8 million contract with an option for 2019.

 

On 2/15/2018 at 5:26 PM, Inside Pitch said:

Thats the deal I would have made...  easy to swallow and even easier to move if shit went sideways...

Best value deal of the winter....

 

 

 

[Inside Pitch]

Just now, DMVol said:

Best value deal of the winter...

Blue Jays  have had a really good offseason IMO.

[Blarg]

Meaning they will finish 3rd in their divsion. Maybe.

[UndertheHalo]

It’s too bad that we couldn’t have brought Watson in on that deal.  Alvarez is the only lefty right ? 

The  back end options are going to be pretty slim if Parker or Bedrosian don’t have good years.  I like both but especially Bedrosian, I don’t have tons of confidence in.  Would be nice if Middleton takes a step forward.  Hopefully Ramirez looks good.

Edited February 17, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

Meaning they will finish 3rd in their divsion. Maybe.

Likely true -- but at least they have avoided mistakes.

[DMVol]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

Meaning they will finish 3rd in their divsion. Maybe.

Isn’t 3rd better than 5th?

[Dtwncbad]

22 hours ago, Zardawg16 said:

Are we going to go with 0 lefties again this season? 

Jesse Orozco sighting. . .

[Lou]

On February 14, 2018 at 9:47 AM, nando714 said:

Bc we need 10 starters instead of 6

So who gets waived? 

[Blarg]

On 2/17/2018 at 3:31 PM, DMVol said:

Isn’t 3rd better than 5th?

I guess, if you think the Orioles and Rays will be competitive. 

[Stradling]

According to Twitter JD and the Red Sox are closing in on a deal. 

[jordan]

 

It appears to finally be happening. 

[floplag]

And here goes the chowds over paying to react to the yanks getting Stanton... lol  
This could be ugly.  

[Stradling]

They literally can’t all be overpays Flop.  They’ve been linked to him since before he became a free agent, and I’m guessing they will get him for a price they are comfortable with. Probably less than they thought he would cost prior to the end of the season.  I’ll guess he gets 5 years $130 million. 

[floplag]

9 minutes ago, Stradling said:

They literally can’t all be overpays Flop.  They’ve been linked to him since before he became a free agent, and I’m guessing they will get him for a price they are comfortable with. Probably less than they thought he would cost prior to the end of the season.  I’ll guess he gets 5 years $130 million. 

Of course they can, anything under any circumstances can be an overpay.   But thats not what i said either.
Darvish and Hosmer were, this one likely will be.  Thats not  "all" of them.  

Im not suggesting this deal, unlike Hosmer's, doesnt make some sense, of course it does, they never replaced Papi.     Hes as close as they are going to get these days.    Its not a bad match, i just dont see it worth youre proposed money, therefore, an overpay.  

[Stradling]

Ok, we have different opinions of what an overpay is.  ARod was an overpay because they outbid themselves by $100 million. Hosmer and Darvish had other suitors as does JD.  If there is competition for services then you pay what it takes to get the player within your budget.  If it doesn’t fit in the budget then you go on to plan B.  Would I want the Angels to pay that much for him, no, but we have a different roster and different budget. 

[mulwin444]

I'm seeing 5/$105 mil being rumored on Twitter 

[nando714]

45 minutes ago, floplag said:

And here goes the chowds over paying to react to the yanks getting Stanton... lol  
This could be ugly.  

Dombrowski....

[nando714]

5/110 , front loaded, probably a 2/50 deal in reality 

opt out after year 2

[nando714]

Sox payroll is $237 million

highest in mlb and move back 10 spots in draft 

[floplag]

43 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Ok, we have different opinions of what an overpay is.  ARod was an overpay because they outbid themselves by $100 million. Hosmer and Darvish had other suitors as does JD.  If there is competition for services then you pay what it takes to get the player within your budget.  If it doesn’t fit in the budget then you go on to plan B.  Would I want the Angels to pay that much for him, no, but we have a different roster and different budget. 

Agreed, though i think the whole "other suitors" thing is a huge unknown.  Weve heard a lot of rumors to suggest that while there was other interest in these cases that noone else offered close to what was finally accepted.  Thats hardly a bidding war.  

No matter, JD to Bos is a good fit for both, makes sense, im just very sure the money will be something i will likely scoff at. 

 

Apparently its coming out as a 5/110 with 2 opt outs?  50 mil first 2 years heavily front loaded.  

So yeah, overpay, but not hugely so.  Bos assuming most of the risk there if he has 2 good years which i found interesting.  They got who they wanted at by and large their price . 

[KDWells]

Seeing it confirmed for 5/110 for Martinez with an opt-out after year two. 

So it looks like the money is laid out like $25M, $25M, $20M, $20M, $20M if J.D. decides to opt in for 2020.

[VariousCrap]

Martinez was demanding 7/210.  Red Sox stuck to their guns and gave him a reasonable contract for his skills.

[Stradling]

Red Sox got a good deal.  Lets see what Arrieta gets, but my guess is he gets about the same as JD or the same as Darvish, somewhere in there.  As for Moustakas, poor guy, he had his career year in a year where no one needed a 3rd baseman except for us and we went with defensive athlete over power.