The Official 2017-2018 Hot Stove Thread

[krAbs]

Just now, Warfarin said:

Yup, they got a pretty good return.  It would have been hard for us to willingly compete with that deal.  We could have, but I wouldn't want to have to give up all that talent.

Yeah, I'm pretty okay with us not being involved here. #13 prospect overall (#1 in house), along with a top 10 in house prospect, a top 20 in house prospect, and a fringe prospect.

[floplag]

9 minutes ago, krAbs said:

Yeah, I'm pretty okay with us not being involved here. #13 prospect overall (#1 in house), along with a top 10 in house prospect, a top 20 in house prospect, and a fringe prospect.

From what i saw it was 2 of their top 6 plus.  
Now i wonder how many still would make that deal?

[Chris]

Yelich is good, but I'm fine rolling out Trout/Upton/Calhoun/Hermosillo and keeping our own prospects.

[totdprods]

20 minutes ago, krAbs said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/01/brewers-to-acquire-christian-yelich.html

Yelich to the Brewers. They appear to be giving up their #1 prospect (high ranking outfielder - #13 overall per mlb.com) and a top 10 prospect infielder. Maybe more to follow.

Feels like an Adell, Jones, Barria, Thaiss would have been around an equivalent. I would have said no.

I imagine we will see the Brewers sign one of Arrieta, Darvish, Lynn, or Cobb before all is said an done.

[Docwaukee]

Yelich is not at 26 yo Miguel Cabrera.  He's an excellent player that just got superstar return for the Marlins.  

[krAbs]

4 minutes ago, floplag said:

From what i saw it was 2 of their top 6 plus.  
Now i wonder how many still would make that deal?

Right - it sounds like Brinson is objectively their top prospect, by a lot - talented, MLB ready outfielder. Beyond that, I feel like rankings get more subjective - according to Nightengale, it was their #1, #6, and #14 prospects (plus another less important prospect). Solid trade for the Marlins, imo. Real boost to their farm system.

[totdprods]

7 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

Yelich is not at 26 yo Miguel Cabrera.  He's an excellent player that just got superstar return for the Marlins.  

Remember that not a single one of those players did jackshit for the Marlins though. 

Cabrera produced 6.5 WAR a season from age 26-29; I can see Yelich turning into a 5-6 WAR annually player during that span. Miggy posted 20.3 WAR age 21-25. Yelich is at 17.7. I really feel the Fangraphs article comparing Yelich to having a Votto-esque type offensive output is attainable - probably not peak Votto, but close to.

[KDWells]

Good return for the Marlins and one they desperately needed, I like the move for the Brewers as well they dealt from their surplus and added a great player on a fantastic contract that may even take another step up with the way their park accentuates left handed hitting.

[Warfarin]

8 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Feels like an Adell, Jones, Barria, Thaiss would have been around an equivalent. I would have said no.

I imagine we will see the Brewers sign one of Arrieta, Darvish, Lynn, or Cobb before all is said an done.

I'm happy for the Brewers.  I'm reading they are pursuing Cain heavily too.  Yelich, Cain, and either Darvish or Arrieta is a helluva offseason for them.  Considering they were on the cusp of a wild card last season, this gives them a legit chance at the division (assuming either Cain or a top SP sign).

[totdprods]

6 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I'm happy for the Brewers.  I'm reading they are pursuing Cain heavily too.  Yelich, Cain, and either Darvish or Arrieta is a helluva offseason for them.  Considering they were on the cusp of a wild card last season, this gives them a legit chance at the division (assuming either Cain or a top SP sign).

Yeah they've got a cool little team. It's good to see they aren't rolling over from a fight with Cubs and Cards. I imagine Cubs will also up the ante for a SP now too.

[Chuck]

Thank GOD! We can now put an end to the Yelich trade proposals on here.  

[Chuck]

What a sad org the Marlins are...

 

The Marlins traded away 35.3 projected WAR expected to earn only $153.7m via Yelich, Ozuna, Stanton (until opt-out). And now have merely the game's 16th-best farm system.

— NEIFI Analytics (@NEIFIco) January 25, 2018

[KDWells]

2 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Thank GOD! We can now put an end to the Yelich trade proposals on here.  

We can finally move on to making Realmuto trade proposals!

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, KDWells said:

We can finally move on to making Realmuto trade proposals!

I would send them Carlos Perez, C.J. Cron & Sum Yung Gui to make that happen. 

[Chuck]

The #Brewers still are trying to sign free-agent outfielder Lorenzo Cain, sources tell The Athletic. Nothing changes with acquisition of Yelich.

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) January 26, 2018

[Chuck]

I now hope the Brewers land Darvish. Liking their team! 

How about trading them Carlos Perez and Sum Yung Gui for Eric Thames?

Thames can act as our part time LF, 1B, DH. 

Thoughts?

[Chuck]

According to FanRag's Jon Heyman, the Nationals are attempting to acquire J.T. Realmuto from the Marlins, but Miami is asking for Victor Robles.

Realmuto is certainly worth a top prospect and more, but Robles might be a little too much and the Nationals would have a difficult time putting together a worth package without him. If the two sides were able to do something, it'd probably involve fellow outfield prospect Juan Soto.

Related: Nationals

 

Source: Jon Heyman on Twitter

[krAbs]

1 minute ago, Chuckster70 said:

I now hope the Brewers land Darvish. Liking their team! 

 

I agree. I was just thinking - they've sold their farm, now its time to nut up or shut up. I kinda expect them to start throwing money at free agents in order to try to be comfortably better than the Cubs are.

[totdprods]

12 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I now hope the Brewers land Darvish. Liking their team! 

How about trading them Carlos Perez and Sum Yung Gui for Eric Thames?

Thames can act as our part time LF, 1B, DH. 

Thoughts?

Wat

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, totdprods said:

Wat

Thames > Cron for part time 1B/DH and outfielder (LF/RF). 

I still would like to add more pop and a lefthanded bat over Cron if we can, much like I wanted to sign Logan Morrison earlier this winter. Send them Cron/Perez for Thames? 

I guess we should see if Ohtani's bat is legit in ST first though.

[ettin]

Brewers sign Cain:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/01/brewers-agree-to-terms-with-lorenzo-cain.html

Edited January 26, 2018 by ettin

[bloodbrother]

Lorenzo Cain to the Brewers

 

 

[ettin]

Really like these moves the Brewers are making and I am sure they are not done yet.

[ettin]

Just now, bloodbrother said:

Lorenzo Cain to the Brewers

 

 

Craig to the Brewers too! Wow!

[GrittyVeterans]

Brewers are going to win that division