The Official 2017-2018 Hot Stove Thread

[CanadianHalo]

6 minutes ago, Calzone said:

Well this would be a nice acquisition without overspending. 

21 hours left

Get it done Billy

[totdprods]

Maybe this will help those who are leery about Kinsler...

.349/.395/.623/1.017

His career slash against the Rangers over 25 games. 16 extra base hits and 14 RBI.

It could be like a Reverse Napoli.

[Ohtaniland]

16 minutes ago, vladdy#27 said:

This move just screams Eppler to me. He has a history of trading with the Tigers, Maybin and Upton. Kinsler is on a one year deal, Eppler likes acquiring guys on one year deals Maybin, Revere, and Espinosa. 

I could live with Kinsler for 1 year at 11M. He’d probably cost similar to what Maybin cost. Maybin not much of a track record coming off a good year. Kinsler with a good track record coming off a down year. 

 

14 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Definitely agree. I'd be happy with Kinsler for a year. He'd be solid. Keeps money and prospects available for 1B, 3B, pitching, or an 'out-of-left field' RF scenario.

But wait......

http://www.angelswin-forum.com/forums/topic/20476-all-douche-team/

[totdprods]

Jerry Crasnick

@jcrasnick

The #Angels are looking at second base upgrades through free agency. Neil Walker and Zach Cozart are on their list (if Cozart is willing to entertain the idea of moving off shortstop).

Jerry Crasnick

@jcrasnick

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An #MLB insider who's familiar with Mike Moustakas' thinking said the #Angels are No. 1 on his wish list. GM Billy Eppler could pursue Moose, or he could roll with Luis Valbuena (22 HRS and a .199 batting average) at 3B and focus on adding a second baseman.

 

[totdprods]

My guess is Angels move quick on 2B and 1B upgrades and then wait out Moose and pitching for deals. 

If Moose/pitching deals never drop to a level they like, they can at least say they upgraded LF, 2B, and 1B.

[CanadianHalo]

I can’t think of a single scenario where I’m ok with signing Moustakas 

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

I can’t think of a single scenario where I’m ok with signing Moustakas 

Not even at 5 years, 5 bucks?

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, CanadianHalo said:

I can’t think of a single scenario where I’m ok with signing Moustakas 

2 years $24 million?

[Angel Oracle]

3 hours ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

CAIN the outfielder.

You mean it’s not Kane the pro wrestler?

[ten ocho recon scout]

8 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Jerry Crasnick

@jcrasnick

The #Angels are looking at second base upgrades through free agency. Neil Walker and Zach Cozart are on their list (if Cozart is willing to entertain the idea of moving off shortstop).

Jerry Crasnick

@jcrasnick

·

An #MLB insider who's familiar with Mike Moustakas' thinking said the #Angels are No. 1 on his wish list. GM Billy Eppler could pursue Moose, or he could roll with Luis Valbuena (22 HRS and a .199 batting average) at 3B and focus on adding a second baseman.

 

#1 but not number 1 in terms of a discount im betting.

[CanadianHalo]

14 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Not even at 5 years, 5 bucks?

Ha! I was literally going to say it would be 5 yr 5 million.

If Moose wants say somewhere between 60-90 mill (let’s say a 15 per) I just think Eppler can get so much more out of that 15 than to use it on Moose.

Moose also doesn’t appear to be in the greatest shape. He was in a lot better shape a few years ago. 

[m0nkey]

13 minutes ago, Stradling said:

2 years $24 million?

24 million years, $2 a year

[nando714]

9 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Ha! I was literally going to say it would be 5 yr 5 million.

If Moose wants say somewhere between 60-90 mill (let’s say a 15 per) I just think Eppler can get so much more out of that 15 than to use it on Moose.

I just think that right field wall is going to eat him alive. 

At first I was all for him but I just think he’s too inconsistent for all that $$$$

and you’re right . We can use that money more wisely 

[rottiesworld]

Well if the Angels are 1 on his list, I would tell him that he would have to take a discount so they could use some money in other area's to make the team better,and if he says no then go take a hike and they could use the money some where else and if he says yes, then make an offer.

[Tank]

22 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

24 million years, $2 a year

listen, he's a professional athlete. there's no reason to pay him like he's a teacher.

[Ohtaniland]

25 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

24 million years, $2 a year

 

[Vlad27Trout27]

I want to go back to the Moustakas topic. Personally i think he doesn't have a market for him. Not many teams are looking for 3rd baseman this offseason. I think he'll resign a 1 year deal with  the royals or if he wants to come back hope, Billy could probably get him for 3 yrs 36-40 mil. 

 

[VariousCrap]

Just say no to Kinsler.  I'd take Gordon over Kinsler and I don't want Gordon either.

[totdprods]

7 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

Just say no to Kinsler.  I'd take Gordon over Kinsler and I don't want Gordon either.

From MLBTradeRumors...

"Kinsler had a down year at the plate in 2017, hitting .236/.313/.412 in 613 plate appearances. Though his average, OBP and slugging marks all fell off considerably from a superlative 2016 season (.288/.348/.484), Kinsler still connected on 22 homers this past season and exhibited other encouraging signs.

For starters, the nine percent walk rate Kinsler logged in 2017 was his highest since the 2011 season, and his 14 percent strikeout rate was not only an improvement over the ’16 campaign but also tied for the 27th-lowest mark among qualified big league hitters. Kinsler’s 37 percent hard-contact rate was the highest mark of his career as well, but despite the uptick in hard-hit balls his BABIP plummeted to .244. Granted, some of that is attributable to a career-worst 14.4 percent infield fly rate, but the rest of his batted-ball profile suggests that Kinsler could be due for some better fortune in 2018. On the defensive side of the coin, Kinsler remains an excellent option and one of the more underrated defensive players in all of baseball, regardless of position."

If he comes cheap/cheapest, I'd be interested. 

[Vlad27Trout27]

Looks like we are looking at kinsler, walker and Cosarts.

[VariousCrap]

5 minutes ago, totdprods said:

From MLBTradeRumors...

"Kinsler had a down year at the plate in 2017, hitting .236/.313/.412 in 613 plate appearances. Though his average, OBP and slugging marks all fell off considerably from a superlative 2016 season (.288/.348/.484), Kinsler still connected on 22 homers this past season and exhibited other encouraging signs.

For starters, the nine percent walk rate Kinsler logged in 2017 was his highest since the 2011 season, and his 14 percent strikeout rate was not only an improvement over the ’16 campaign but also tied for the 27th-lowest mark among qualified big league hitters. Kinsler’s 37 percent hard-contact rate was the highest mark of his career as well, but despite the uptick in hard-hit balls his BABIP plummeted to .244. Granted, some of that is attributable to a career-worst 14.4 percent infield fly rate, but the rest of his batted-ball profile suggests that Kinsler could be due for some better fortune in 2018. On the defensive side of the coin, Kinsler remains an excellent option and one of the more underrated defensive players in all of baseball, regardless of position."

If he comes cheap/cheapest, I'd be interested. 

I say no way to Kinsler.

There are plenty of choices for 2B.  We don't need to settle for him.

Hernandez, Walker, Gordon, Cozart, Kipnis and even Nunez.  I'll take any of them over Kinsler.

[m0nkey]

Mariners traded for Ryon Healy

[SoWhat]

 

[Vlad27Trout27]

Just now, m0nkey said:

Mariners traded for Ryon Healy

And they gave up one of there better Bp arms. For a manger that doesn't know how to manage his Bp this a helps us alot.

[IEAngelsfan]

1 hour ago, m0nkey said:

24 million years, $2 a year

Looks like someone from Frisco hacked into monkey's account.