More Thoughts & Prayers

[arch stanton]

It's good to take down the shooter but the bigger picture is that shooters are still making way onto campuses at their leisure. The big fail was there

[Tank]

3 hours ago, arch stanton said:

It's good to take down the shooter but the bigger picture is that shooters are still making way onto campuses at their leisure. The big fail was there

yep, there are a lot of schools that need to secure their boundaries and entrance points (mine being one of them). it's going to take some time and $$$ to do this.

[tennischmp]

While it's great that nobody was killed I will wait until more details come out before making any conclusions. From what I read the shooter and the girl wounded knew each other so this could have been just a targeted shooting rather than a random "kill as many as you can" one that most mass school shootings are. I read that it took 45 seconds for the officer to get there and it was in a crowded hallway before classes started. I would imagine if the guy intended to kill as many as he wanted there would have been more wounded. Glad no one was killed though. 

[Jason]

3 hours ago, Tank said:

yep, there are a lot of schools that need to secure their boundaries and entrance points (mine being one of them). it's going to take some time and $$$ to do this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/443818002

this doesn't help

[Make Angels Great Again]

4 hours ago, Jason said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/443818002

this doesn't help

 

Broward County must be the worst Sheriff's office in the country. Wow.  

[Jason]

18 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

Broward County must be the worst Sheriff's office in the country. Wow.  

I don't know about that but they sure do need some changes

[Taylor]

On 3/20/2018 at 11:33 AM, Jason said:

It boosts the idea of having more armed personnel on campus 

Or, it boosts the idea of having trained, dedicated security armed personnel on staff. Not teachers.

[red321]

20 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Or, it boosts the idea of having trained, dedicated security armed personnel on staff. Not teachers.

agreed...dude was a trained swat guy, not Mr. Blue from Speech and Debate club

[Jason]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Or, it boosts the idea of having trained, dedicated security armed personnel on staff. Not teachers.

Isn't that what I said?

[Lou]

On 3/20/2018 at 5:42 PM, UndertheHalo said:

Thats just not true.  Very, very few people want to “ban guns”

From YouGov poll in late Feb 2018 -

how people feel about banning all handguns (except those issued to officers of the state, of course!), which would include revolvers. Result:

Americans are strongly opposed overall but Democrats are on the fence at 44/46.

[Spirit]

Oh great.  Another postal event and someone ends up dead.

No need to do anything new though.  Just some Ts & Ps should do it. 

 

 

 

[red321]

Looks like there might be a positive step forward

http://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-gun-violence-research-ban-spending-bill-shutdown-2018-3

Spending bill appears to include clarification of the Dickey amendment, which should allow the CDC to start studying gun violence and injury prevention

[Spirit]

Interestingly, the bill doesn't provide anything for vehicle death and injury prevention.

 

 

[red321]

22 minutes ago, Geoff said:

Interestingly, the bill doesn't provide anything for vehicle death and injury prevention.

 

 

My guess would be studying vehicle death and injury prevention wasn't expressly forbid like gun violence...but keep beating that drum

[floplag]

1 hour ago, red321 said:

Looks like there might be a positive step forward

http://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-gun-violence-research-ban-spending-bill-shutdown-2018-3

Spending bill appears to include clarification of the Dickey amendment, which should allow the CDC to start studying gun violence and injury prevention

How the fuck is gun violence a CDC concern?   Does the ATF research ebola?   
This is just idiotic bureaucracy in action so they can say they spent money on something they really havent.  Reminds me of the early days of Aids when govt claimed millions were being spent when most was at best tangent research on other things.
The CDC needs to focus on disease, cancer, even the common cold and pneumonia... leave guns to those who might be able to do something about it 

[mtangelsfan]

13 minutes ago, red321 said:

My guess would be studying vehicle death and injury prevention wasn't expressly forbid like gun violence...but keep beating that drum

Maybe the bill should spend some money on grammar.l

[Spirit]

18 minutes ago, red321 said:

My guess would be studying vehicle death and injury prevention wasn't expressly forbid like gun violence...but keep beating that drum

 

As long as people keep getting killed, I'll keep up the fight ... while you keep ignoring it.

 

 

[Kevin]

14 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Maybe the bill should spend some money on grammar.l

Grammar never killed anyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still don't believe Halothunder's posts actually killed anyone after reading them. I don't care what you guys think!

[mtangelsfan]

10 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Grammar never killed anyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still don't believe Halothunder's posts actually killed anyone after reading them. I don't care what you guys think!

I'm pretty sure English Cop has offed a few grammar felons.

[Jason]

1 hour ago, floplag said:

How the fuck is gun violence a CDC concern?   Does the ATF research ebola?   
This is just idiotic bureaucracy in action so they can say they spent money on something they really havent.  Reminds me of the early days of Aids when govt claimed millions were being spent when most was at best tangent research on other things.
The CDC needs to focus on disease, cancer, even the common cold and pneumonia... leave guns to those who might be able to do something about it 

Maybe they will find out that people who are shot with a gun are more likely to die or need medical treatment as opposed to those who don't get shot. The fact that the democrats have been demanding this happens leads me to believe there a political motivations behind it. I'm not sure what those are though. It seems rather pointless to me

[red321]

1 hour ago, floplag said:

How the fuck is gun violence a CDC concern?   Does the ATF research ebola?   
This is just idiotic bureaucracy in action so they can say they spent money on something they really havent.  Reminds me of the early days of Aids when govt claimed millions were being spent when most was at best tangent research on other things.
The CDC needs to focus on disease, cancer, even the common cold and pneumonia... leave guns to those who might be able to do something about it 

CDC is the organization that deals with public health and they have been prohibited into research on gun violence prevention. Haven't folks spent the last few months preaching how school shootings were a mental health issue?

 

[floplag]

10 minutes ago, red321 said:

CDC is the organization that deals with public health and they have been prohibited into research on gun violence prevention. Haven't folks spent the last few months preaching how school shootings were a mental health issue?

 

Mental health still isnt CDC.  This isnt a pathogen, an infection, a virus... medical doctors and virologists are not the ones equipped to handle this. 

[UndertheHalo]

They study data.  Why is this such a point of contention ? Let them study it    This may come as a shock to you Flop.  The CDC does things other then what you’ve seen depicted in movies like outbreak.   The CDC isn’t partisan.  I don’t think you gun folks have much to worry about. 

Edited March 22, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

And automotive fatalities I’m very certain have been researched extensively.  

[red321]

21 minutes ago, floplag said:

Mental health still isnt CDC.  This isnt a pathogen, an infection, a virus... medical doctors and virologists are not the ones equipped to handle this. 

yeah, you seem to be taking the title CDC a tad bit too literal

http://searchhealthit.techtarget.com/definition/Centers-for-Disease-Control-and-Prevention-CDC

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is a federal agency that conducts and supports health promotion, prevention and preparedness activities in the United States, with the goal of improving overall public health. Established in 1946 and based in Atlanta, the CDC is managed by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).