Las Vegas Shooting

[Kevin]

35 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's a stock that uses recoil to keep your finger on the trigger without letting it off

 

The only thing that could have made this video better was the chick shooting the car and a banjo. Three weapons of mass destruction squaring off. Right @Geoff?

[fan_since79]

L.A. Times reported yesterday the girlfriend was in Tokyo, now we hear she's in the Philippines.

No word on when (or if) she might return for questioning. Sheriff deflected questions about it today.

Something's not right here.

 

[wopphil]

7 hours ago, nando714 said:

I'm sure we're gonna a see a class action lawsuit , wrongful death

Yeah, they are gonna their shit sued big time.

[Spirit]

13 minutes ago, Kevin said:

The only thing that could have made this video better was the chick shooting the car and a banjo. Three weapons of mass destruction squaring off. Right @Geoff?

 

Silly.  No one ever uses anything but a gun to kill people. 

 

 

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

I'm pretty sure the bump stocks go bye bye now. I've shot them and do not like them. Feels like there's zero control with one. 

Why don't you support the second amendment and the Constitution?

[TSD]

20 hours ago, Mark68 said:

Race baiter? Are you fucking high? Give it a goddamn rest. The only way Obama was a race baiter is by his mere presence as a black man in the White House--a house built by slaves.

I am so sick of idiots like you parroting this nonsense. If you want to point fingers at race baiters, look at the current occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave--that is, during the week, because every weekend, he's on one of his goddamn golf courses. He kicked off his campaign with racial dog whistles. Even before he "officially" ran, he was one of the unofficial heads of the "birther" movement. Obama a fucking race baiter, my ass.

The mainstream media reports the news. That's their job. Not to make shit up but to report what actually does happen. If it isn't 100% right-wing in its reporting, then it must be "liberal media". 

I am so sick of this tired narrative.

By the way, the mainstream media has a good deal of responsibility for Trump's election, with all that free publicity he received from the get-go. More time on the public airwaves than any other candidate.

 

The swearing really doesn't do much to make your point seem more credible, quite the opposite. Not impressing anyone.

Anyways.

Study after study has shown that the media is biased towards liberal viewpoints, and reporters are on average quite a bit to the left.  Have you ever lived anywhere besides California? I've lived in 5 states and most of the country is NOT liberal. Members of the media went so far as to give Hillary the debate questions ahead of time.  I didn't like either candidate but that's downright scary.  Hello Pravda.

As far as Obama race baiting, you're living in lala land.  He sent three representatives to the funeral of Michael Brown but none to Chris Kyle's. Three to Freddie Gray's but Margaret Thatcher, one of our strongest allies since WW2, yeah he sent no one.  He is the most racist President in history.  Honored drug dealing scumbags over soldiers and allies, all based on race.  Even criticized his own grandmother for being "white". Used the IRS to attack conservative groups.

I don't know anyone who didn't like him because he's (half) black.  The average person didn't like him because he was a liar, added more debt to our country than EVERY President before him combined,  made snide comments about anyone who disagreed with him, and in general was a do nothing bum who let other world leaders walk all over him.

The only people "responsible"for Trump being elected are the idiot dems, who illegally sabotaged Sanders, and tried to force the evil sociopath Hillary down our throats.  I'm glad it blew up in their face.

[nando714]

48 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Marilou Danley, the live-in girlfriend of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock, and now a "person of interest" in the shooting investigation, is a Philippines native who has used two Social Security numbers during her two-plus decades in the United States, and was married to two men at the same time, public records show.

The person who may hold the key to solving the mystery of why the Vegas gunman killed 59 and wounded nearly 600 people led a convoluted life of her own, with two simultaneous husbands, a bankruptcy, two Social Security numbers, multiple addresses in several states and even different ages depending on which state records you review.

http://www.newsweek.com/marilou-danley-gunmans-girlfriend-social-security-number-677033?amp=1

I think this dude was brain washed. A single older man with money. Easy target. 

[TSD]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Just saw a pic on CNN, definetely had a bump stock on at least one rifle.

I've shot bump fire and watched experienced people do it.  At one point in one of the videos you see the bullets sweep in a straight line side to side..   At that range with a bump fire, no way., you'd be all over the place.  At some points you hear a varying rates of fire but at others it's very constant.  I'd venture he had at least one illegally modified full auto.  You can tell because the rate of fire is quite a bit slower than a true full auto. Plus an illegally modified gun dumps the whole clip even if you let off the trigger, and that is exactly what happens.  No pause. Go to youtube and listen to a truly automatic AK or M16 and you'll see what I mean.

No doubt they will use this to ban that style stock.  Fine with me, I see no use for it besides causing trouble.  My range banned them ASAP when  they came out.

[TSD]

5 minutes ago, nando714 said:

I think this dude was brain washed. A single older man with money. Easy target. 

I would love to see if he really was a convert.  Or is it just more Obama coined "workplace violence"?

[Lou]

Well said, recon. 

[Lou]

10 hours ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

I read something recently along the lines of "the moment you fix something, you become useless."

that's a great quote. 

[Lou]

7 hours ago, red321 said:

i go to hotel with bags of camera equipment. Never once is there a blink of an eye. 

 

The answer to what should be done about guns is better hotel security?

We'be saddled ourselves with huge lines and security scans to get in to airports, ballparks, amusement parks, museums, schools...and now we are going to add hotels? 

Ballparks?

You obviously didn't go to any Angels games this year 

[Lou]

Yep, the TV libs had no boat in the race.

 

[Lou]

And just because this is so damn funny...

 

[Lou]

And the best of them all...

 

[Kevin]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

And the best of them all...

 

Brian Williams hasn't been that disappointed since his helicopter ride was was interrupted by an RPG.

[TSD]

18 minutes ago, Lou said:

And just because this is so damn funny...

 

That's a great compilation of WHY Trump won.  Not because people like him so much.  But because they are sick of self appointed elitists telling them what's best for them and how they should think. Funny, most of these "elitists", especially the Hollywood types, are as sharp as bowling balls and their lives are moral cesspools.  I went to a top university and the so called elite liberals there have ZERO real world accomplishments.  Never ran a business, never created one job, never invented anything, never helped anyone but themselves.  I got the paper I needed and never looked back.

Say you are an average southern white redneck type.  You grow up with few financial advantages, parents don't send you to college, then you spend the rest of your life being brow beaten by the media about how "advantaged" and racist you are, when in reality you see a large chunk of your hard earned wages go to illegal invaders, deadbeats, and then are told how all the world's problems are your fault.  No wonder they're pissed off.

 I saw an article the other day that Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus, and some other idiot were chiming in on gun control again.  Those type need to wake up.  They're absolute trash with no morals, no brains,  and they want to weigh in and tell US how to live all the while having their own 24/7 armed security details.  Trump will win again in 2020, not that I'm particularly excited about that, but the dems continue to dig their own graves.

[TSD]

9 minutes ago, Lou said:

And the best of them all...

 

All the facts in the world won't convince a dyed in the wool liberal.  They operate on emotions and when proven wrong either swear at you, call you a nazi,  a racist, or some combination of the above.  When someone says their is no leftist media bias I mentally dismiss them.  Fox news is the one and only mainstream right wing network and not a fan of them either.  Tell me the facts, I'll form my own opinions.  Oddly enough RT is probably about the most factual news station.  Who would have ever thought it would come to that?

[Jason]

As far as this shooting goes, stuff isn’t adding up to me. Seems like a difficult task to do this with no help. This dude had plenty of ammo to shoot up the cops too but he blows his brains out? Maybe @Vladdylonglegs can back me up here. I generally don’t buy into conspiracies but this one feels like there’s more to it

[TSD]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

As far as this shooting goes, stuff isn’t adding up to me. Seems like a difficult task to do this with no help. This dude had plenty of ammo to shoot up the cops too but he blows his brains out? Maybe @Vladdylonglegs can back me up here. I generally don’t buy into conspiracies but this one feels like there’s more to it

A lot of it stinks.  

Sure looks like gunfire coming from the 4th or 5th floor.  The flashes are in time with the sound, delayed due to distance just like you'd think.

Guy has zero criminal or mental health history.

He owned at least one plane, and had material to improvise explosives.  You'd do a lot more damage and be far more sensational by loading it up and flying it into something.  Clearly he was intent on max damage, and given his background I'd say he was no dummy (different from being nuts).

But maybe that can all be explained away.

The picture sure looks like him and his gal at the anti Trump rally.  Whoever shot up a country concert certainly was targeting conservatives.  Maybe his wife radicalized him.  I don't trust the gov to ever tell us that even if they found it out.  Maybe he had a bad gambling streak and decided to go out in a big (yet horrible) way.  His dad was nuts, maybe he inherited some bad mental health and was good at hiding it.

 

[Make Angels Great Again]

Saw this image on reddit, it looks like there is a pen to the right of this pad of paper.

 

[Tank]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

It's a stock that uses recoil to keep your finger on the trigger without letting it off

 

With automatic weapons being illegal, how is something like this even remotely legal?!? If me or one of my family was a victim in Vegas, I would sue the living hell out of the manufacturer of that device and whoever sold it. It's time to hold companies like this one accountable for what they're selling. This is a product that has no business being in the hands of any single one of us.

[nando714]

Gf back in US. At lax now

[TSD]

23 minutes ago, Tank said:

With automatic weapons being illegal, how is something like this even remotely legal?!? If me or one of my family was a victim in Vegas, I would sue the living hell out of the manufacturer of that device and whoever sold it. It's time to hold companies like this one accountable for what they're selling. This is a product that has no business being in the hands of any single one of us.

I don't disagree on the ridiculousness of it being legal but a couple points:

It's a legal device at the moment and the manufacturer isn't liable if someone uses it for illegal means.  A car can kill but you can't sue Toyota if some idiot runs your family down maliciously.  This was not its intended use,  from a legal standpoint.

You would have a very hard time proving that this device was responsible for the death of your particular family member.  A semi auto can put a lot of bullets downrange without one.

I personally think abortion and serving alcohol to people when you know they are likely to drive home are terrible ideas, and many more lives have been taken because of these activities.  Part of freedom is tolerating things you don't agree with at times. Part of a civilized society is pursuing legal means to change things you disagree with.  I'm sure these devices will be illegal soon enough.

[red321]

I missed Juan Savage