Scioscia on protesting during the anthem

[Dtwncbad]

Just now, mtangelsfan said:

There is a difference between having your argument attacked and you being attacked.

That fact gets lost on here all of the time.

Understood.  But is it fair to point out the obvious?  A beat writer basically complaining that someone is saying the same thing for too long?

I think that's a fair point.

[arch stanton]

 

The NFL and NBA are each situations where the largely black employees are the face of the product and the very wealthy and successful owners  realize that taking them on directly would be pretty foolish. If they force the issue they’re going to lose sponsors and a good part of the political clout that keeps their monopolies humming along. 

At some point though, the players themselves will be asked to put up or shut up and the league will have to offer to work with the players to address certain issues. They’ll have to do this without pissing off the police and politicians they’ve spent so much time and money to appease over the years. The key will be in forming a singular message that suits both sides and isn’t highjacked by the parasites 

[mtangelsfan]

If they keep having to repeatedly say that they aren't protesting the flag, anthem or the military then is this a successful approach?

[Dtwncbad]

51 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

You just wait till I win a Pulitzer for Best Story That Says Nothing. 

I hope you do.  Really.  I love baseball and I love baseball content.  Let me say explicitly here (as a reaction to another poster thinking I was put if line) that while I believe my comment to you was, in my opinion fair, it really attacks the nature of your assignmant and how that (out of your control) has you boxed in a bit.

I would be very happy if you wrote a book and won a Purlitzer Prize.

[arch stanton]

9 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

If they keep having to repeatedly say that they aren't protesting the flag, anthem or the military then is this a successful approach?

That’s why I say they need to come up with an agreeable message pretty quick. You’ve got national attention now do something with it 

[the dude abides]

Just now entering this thread, but don't want to read all 28 pages.

What have I missed so far?

[Blarg]

The National Anthem sung by Tank.

[Jeff Fletcher]

13 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

I hope you do.  Really.  I love baseball and I love baseball content.  Let me say explicitly here (as a reaction to another poster thinking I was put if line) that while I believe my comment to you was, in my opinion fair, it really attacks the nature of your assignmant and how that (out of your control) has you boxed in a bit.

In some ways, you are correct. I'm pretty sure all of our jobs have inefficiencies, but that's a whole other thread.

[Chuck]

4 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The National Anthem sung by Tank.

It would be so good it would bring the roof down, thus everyone would be on their knees or face down. 

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

In some ways, you are correct. I'm pretty sure all of our jobs have inefficiencies, but that's a whole other thread.

It would be boring content, but I could tell you 100 examples of limitations in my work (commercial finance) that come from the investor community that is addicted to vanilla.  It sometimes crushes creativity that would accomplish very exciting things.

And I have an engineer friend that literally hates his work.  He became an engineer to engineer.  Yet everyday he simply mechanically pushes forward a repeat of somebody else's "proven" and safe project rules. . .

[yk9001]

2 hours ago, the dude abides said:

Just now entering this thread, but don't want to read all 28 pages.

What have I missed so far?

 

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, yk9001 said:

 

The level of gross here is staggering.

Why don't you just write a book called:

Isolating, Objectifying and Exploiting Race:  A Lazy Path to Being Cool

By YK9001

Preface by Ray Subait

[the dude abides]

1 hour ago, yk9001 said:

 

Whitey McSportsfan is one of my favorite authors.

Hopefully it'll contain a special patriotic introduction by Donnie Bonespurs. 

 

 

[yk9001]

Now its getting good.

Houston owner uses a "inmates running the prison" reference.

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21185499/houston-texans-players-considered-walkout-bob-mcnair-comment

 

 

[yk9001]

What is really weird is that the term is "inmates running the asylum".

But the Texans owner says "inmates running the prison".

So the owner equates his millionaire, highly paid black players, with felons.

Gee, I cannot for the life of me figure out why black players may be protesting racial inequality.

[Tank]

7 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

You just wait till I win a Pulitzer for Best Story That Says Nothing. 

i believe that's the highly regarded seinfeld award.

[mtangelsfan]

52 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

What is really weird is that the term is "inmates running the asylum".

But the Texans owner says "inmates running the prison".

So the owner equates his millionaire, highly paid black players, with felons.

Gee, I cannot for the life of me figure out why black players may be protesting racial inequality.

Uh oh

[Tank]

6 hours ago, Blarg said:

The National Anthem sung by Tank.

and i was kneeling while singing.

[ten ocho recon scout]

20 hours ago, yk9001 said:

What is really weird is that the term is "inmates running the asylum".

But the Texans owner says "inmates running the prison".

So the owner equates his millionaire, highly paid black players, with felons.

Gee, I cannot for the life of me figure out why black players may be protesting racial inequality.

Do you honestly think he meant it any more than the version with "asylum"?

If someone says "bless you", "godbless you" or the ever present "blesh you" when you sneeze, do you wonder why they chose that version over another?

[tdawg87]

9 hours ago, Tank said:

and i was kneeling while singing.

It's not an animal right's protest so why the hell would you be standing?

[yk9001]

7 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Do you honestly think he meant it any more than the version with "asylum"?

 

Unequivocally, wholeheartedly, yes.

I will make it as clear as I can. I think that the old, white Texan owner equates his black players with felons and prisoners.

[yk9001]

Check out who was in the top five of Trump donors in the 2016 election.

[Dtwncbad]

2 hours ago, yk9001 said:

Unequivocally, wholeheartedly, yes.

I will make it as clear as I can. I think that the old, white Texan owner equates his black players with felons and prisoners.

Of course you.  You are addicted.

[Blarg]

10 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Do you honestly think he meant it any more than the version with "asylum"?

If someone says "bless you", "godbless you" or the ever present "blesh you" when you sneaze, do you wonder why they chose that version over another?

The first is agnostict, the second is religious oppresion, the last is a speech impediment .

[yvangelfan]

21 hours ago, yk9001 said:

Now its getting good.

Houston owner uses a "inmates running the prison" reference.

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21185499/houston-texans-players-considered-walkout-bob-mcnair-comment

 

 

He's right, snowflake.