Upton's defense

[Erstad Grit]

I never watched him a lot, so I'm trying not to judge him off of a week of games........ but he sucks.  

 

Can anyone vouch that he is at least average and is just having a rough go? 

 

[tomsred]

He only made two errors all season long before coming to the Angels, he'll be fine.

[Erstad Grit]

Errors aren't really a great metric

[Angel Oracle]

As Dean Wormer would say.....It stinks!

[tomsred]

1 hour ago, Erstad Grit said:

Errors aren't really a great metric

Then here is a more complete evaluation to wade through......

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2017/07/10/star-justin-upton-upswing-tigers/103591346/

[Angel Oracle]

Where has that defense been so far here?

[tomsred]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Where has that defense been so far here?

Maybe the defense hasn't shown up so far with the Angels, but being able to insert a legitimate #3 hitter between Trout and Pujols makes a big difference.  Wouldn't you know that Pujols would go lame after a 13-26 stint, let's hope he can continue for the next 3+ weeks.  We need everyone on board to make the Wild Card spot.  I'd like to see a little more offense from Phillips as well.  I'm also a little worried about these little mini slumps Trout keeps running into, he's obviously a really great player and this is the time to show it.  Overall, Upton's a big improvement over what we got from Maybin.  It will be interesting to see how left field plays out in the off season.

[Inside Pitch]

4 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

Errors aren't really a great metric

Is there a defensive metric you do put value in?  DRS maybe? http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=lf&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2017&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0   He grades out well there..

He seems to rank well in a lot of the advance defensive metrics this year -- so, it may just be a case of a guy getting used to a new park and the lighting.  Dunno.  I havent seen enough of him to have an opinion as to whether or not he passes the eye test.

[GrittyVeterans]

I'd say he's an average defender that seems to lose focus at times. 

[UndertheHalo]

We've had him for a week guys.  He lost one in the sun today, it happens.  He'll be fine. 

[Erstad Grit]

6 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

We've had him for a week guys.  He lost one in the sun today, it happens.  He'll be fine. 

He's had 1-2 misplayed balls per game since he's come here.  

[UndertheHalo]

18 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

He's had 1-2 misplayed balls per game since he's come here.  

its still just a handful games. 

[Angel Oracle]

I hope a day off helps to rejuvenate Phillips' overall game, and Upton's defense, after what was probably a whirlwind week for them.

[tomsred]

12 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

We've had him for a week guys.  He lost one in the sun today, it happens.  He'll be fine. 

He's got to get used to playing with Trout, Revere and EY Jr. in center as well.  Not sure, but I think EY Jr. should have passed behind him as a backup on the lost sun ball rather than almost cutting in front of him.  It kind of set up a partial distraction.  Then again maybe he called EY off a little too late, I dunno.  It was an awkward play on both.  He's made some nice throws from left even though the were against runners a little too fast to throw out.  I don't see his defense as a long term problem.  I actually have more confidence in him than Maybin.  Maybin has more speed but runs some really crazy routes.  

[Troutta here]

Never really rated him based on the handful of times I watched the Dbacks when I lived in Phoenix, for what it's worth. 

[Lou]

On September 7, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Erstad Grit said:

He's had 1-2 misplayed balls per game since he's come here.  

So he's like Maybin with a better bat ? 

[Stradling]

Also he hasn't misplayed 1-2 a game, that's fan speak for I saw him make an error once or twice in six games.  

its funny because we've had Maybin, Upton and Revere out there this year and none of them look super confident out there.  I will say that Maybin made a handful of nice sliding catches for us.  I'm sure we will get to see Upton's arm cut down a run before this season is over. 

[Jobu]

It'll be fine

[GrittyVeterans]

He's a space cadet. Has nothing to do with declining skills or anything like that. He just seems to lose focus out there.

[Angel Oracle]

Defensively so far, he might as well be Dick Dr. Strangeglove Stuart!

[AngelsLakersFan]

I'm just hoping that he's just been used to playing with a centerfielder with more range......

[tomsred]

No one cares to comment on the nice running catch late in the game, the solid two RBI double that put the Angels ahead, or the great read on the pitch that allowed him to score in the eighth?  He doesn't seem like a space cadet to me.

[Lou]

1 hour ago, tomsred said:

No one cares to comment on the nice running catch late in the game, the solid two RBI double that put the Angels ahead, or the great read on the pitch that allowed him to score in the eighth?  He doesn't seem like a space cadet to me.

What the hell? Get out of here with that positive crap.

damn rookie ...

[tomsred]

17 minutes ago, Lou said:

What the hell? Get out of here with that positive crap.

damn rookie ...

Don't worry, all the flotsam will return soon enough.  It's like the sea surge in Hurricane Irma, goes out with each win, but comes back soon enough with a lot of stinky garbage when a loss is posted.  I guess we are in for a good drowning when the Angels are eliminated, LOL.  I'll make sure I am in a shelter on that day.

[GrittyVeterans]

3 hours ago, tomsred said:

No one cares to comment on the nice running catch late in the game, the solid two RBI double that put the Angels ahead, or the great read on the pitch that allowed him to score in the eighth?  He doesn't seem like a space cadet to me.

No one has said he isn't a good player overall. He just seems to lose focus out there more than most players. It's happened about 4 times since we've acquired him. He's dropped a couple and misplayed a couple more

I don't think it's some kind of huge deal. It's just a little strange to see from an all star veteran player in his prime