Trout for MVP talk is starting

[jsnpritchett]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

My hope is to see Trout finish no worse than 2nd, and Simmons somehow crack the top 5.   The Halos, to my recollection, have never, eeever had two top 5's.  

Don't see that happening, either.  Defense-first SS don't have a great recent track record in MVP voting.  Even Ozzie only finished in the top 10 once (1987, when Andre Dawson from the last-place Cubs won...).  I realize Simmons is having a better offensive year than Ozzie did that year--but his offensive stats are still just going to be good-to-very-good at a glance.  If he had 20 HR and 100 RBI to go along with his defense, then, sure, maybe he'd crack the top 5 even in a mediocre year for the Angels.  But don't see it happening this year.

[Angel Oracle]

Simmons has moved pass Scherzer into 2nd spot in MLB WAR at 5.97, only 0.32 behind the leader Altuve.   

Simmons is also currently 29th in AL OPS at .817.    Trout, Judge, Altuve, Springer, Correa, and Smoak all have at least a .966 OPS. 

[Taylor]

 

But ... but ... but ... Harper has passion! I love the way he plays the game!

[Ray McKigney]

10 minutes ago, Taylor said:

 

But ... but ... but ... Harper has passion! I love the way he plays the game!

 

[Angel Dog and Beer]

When he does that, I imaging he's just trying to get all the douche off him.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Altuve. Trouts injury cost him too much (though if the stars align ill be ecstatic).

I hope altuve wins the WS mvp...or anyone else whos not a dodger.

Altuve and a Dodger are possible, but Harper will get the NL MVP, so the Dodgers won't win it anyway.

[VariousCrap]

Trout would have to play every game for the rest of the season to have a chance to win the MVP.  Why?  There is precedence for this.  George Brett won the MVP playing just 117 games, which is the least amount of games ever played by an MVP winner.  Anything less than that and his chances will be very slim.

Discussion on this:  https://twitter.com/IntentionalTalk/status/895031502685315074

[Chuck]

10 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

Trout would have to play every game for the rest of the season to have a chance to win the MVP.  Why?  There is precedence for this.  George Brett won the MVP playing just 117 games, which is the least amount of games ever played by an MVP winner.  Anything less than that and his chances will be very slim.

Discussion on this:  https://twitter.com/IntentionalTalk/status/895031502685315074

I thought @Angel Oracle posted something earlier about McCovey winning MVP award playing in less games.

[Troll Daddy]

Some crazy connections between the two ... btw, yes Trout is leaps and bounds better than Harper 

[Dick B Back]

17 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I thought @Angel Oracle posted something earlier about McCovey winning MVP award playing in less games.

Was ROY for McCovey.

[Dick B Back]

30 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

Trout would have to play every game for the rest of the season to have a chance to win the MVP.  Why?  There is precedence for this.  George Brett won the MVP playing just 117 games, which is the least amount of games ever played by an MVP winner.  Anything less than that and his chances will be very slim.

Discussion on this:  https://twitter.com/IntentionalTalk/status/895031502685315074

And KC made it to the world series that year.

[Angels#1Fan]

1 minute ago, Dick B Back said:

And KC made it to the world series that year.

Voting goes in before the play-offs and WS.

[Angelsjunky]

3 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

I just wish the MVP award would be defined. 

Is it MOST VALUABLE PLAYER to the team or to the league, or both?

If it's both, or even to the league, I think Trout should be the unanimous choice IMHO. 

I've always liked the idea of splitting the MVP into two awards, one being something like the 'Kirk Gibson Award' - most valuable to his team making the postseason, and the 'Barry Bonds Award' - the best overall position player. So you'd have three awards:

Cy Young Award - best pitcher

Barry Bonds Award - best position player

Kirk Gibson Award - most valuable player (pitcher or hitter)

I think a lot of the confusion comes because the Barry Bonds and Kirk Gibson awards are combined.

(And I'm not attached to those players being named - they just work well to describe what I'm getting at)

[Chuck]

Hey @Mr Meeseeks tone down the "Troll" reactions. They're just for members who troll. 

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, Angelsjunky said:

I've always liked the idea of splitting the MVP into two awards, one being something like the 'Kirk Gibson Award' - most valuable to his team making the postseason, and the 'Barry Bonds Award' - the best overall position player. So you'd have three awards:

Cy Young Award - best pitcher

Barry Bonds Award - best position player

Kirk Gibson Award - most valuable player (pitcher or hitter)

I think a lot of the confusion comes because the Barry Bonds and Kirk Gibson awards are combined.

(And I'm not attached to those players being named - they just work well to describe what I'm getting at)

I do like that idea too.

[m0nkey]

6 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Hey @Mr Meeseeks tone down the "Troll" reactions. They're just for members who troll. 

He's trying to bring down everyone's points

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, m0nkey said:

He's trying to bring down everyone's points

I can restrict "Reactions" from certain members, so I hope he had fun while it lasted if he doesn't stop.

[totdprods]

I hate the idea of splitting it. Detracts from the recognition.

I do think the name muddles it. One or the other should be renamed so it's clearly 'Best Hitter' and 'Best Pitcher' (attribute it to a player like Cy Young) or rename it to 'Most Valuable Pitcher' and 'Most Valuable Hitter' so it strips away all this back and forth about whether or not a player has to come from a playoff team or if a pitcher can win the MVP.

[NrM]

42 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

He's trying to bring down everyone's points

lol I didn't know it actually lowers points. I just found the face funny.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

lol I didn't know it actually lowers points. I just found the face funny.

LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!!

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

In the 68 games Trout has play this year he has only gone 11 games without at least 1 hit. he has a 10 game hit going at the moment.

[IEAngelsfan]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

Hey @Mr Meeseeks tone down the "Troll" reactions. They're just for members who troll. 

We finally have a reaction for Troll Daddy posts.

[Angels#1Fan]

49 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

lol I didn't know it actually lowers points. I just found the face funny.

Ignorance is bliss.

[Dick B Back]

3 hours ago, Angels#1Fan said:

Voting goes in before the play-offs and WS.

My point was Brett had a great year on a team that mattered.

[Angelsjunky]

2 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

In the 68 games Trout has play this year he has only gone 11 games without at least 1 hit. he has a 10 game hit going at the moment.

This may warrant a one week ban if he doesn't get a hit tonight.