You don't rebuild with the best player in the game...

[Inside Pitch]

6 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Not True the Marlins (I think it's the Marlins) out bid us for Pujols so Arte added a year or 2 to the contract to get Albert. With Hamilton, Arte said take this by some short deadline, or it will be revoked and he had very little time to consider other offers. The first 2 years of Wilson's deal were pretty good until he kept getting injured and had an operation and setbacks and more operations and finally just decided to race cars.

Texas had similar problems signing Fielder and Choo. The Dodgers payroll is astronomical and a lot of the money is owed to players not on their team any longer. The Dodgers spent their way into their problems but unlike Arte they spent their way out of it.

The Marlins offered more money, the Angels offered the no trade..  But AP actually left money on the table to join the Angels - so did CJ Wilson.

Here is a link to an excellent payroll site -- it shows the retained (the dead money you are talking about) and a great breakdown of how much payroll is on the DL etc etc.  If you click on the individual teams youll see it shows draft bonuses for recent draftees and minor league salaries...  http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

Seriously -- a great site.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

4 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

The Marlins offered more money, the Angels offered the no trade..  But AP actually left money on the table to join the Angels - so did CJ Wilson.

Here is a link to an excellent payroll site -- it shows the retained (the dead money you are talking about) and a great breakdown of how much payroll is on the DL etc etc.  If you click on the individual teams youll see it shows draft bonuses for recent draftees and minor league salaries...  http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

Seriously -- a great site.

that's right thanks, my memory is not what it used to be.

[Inside Pitch]

19 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

that's right thanks, my memory is not what it used to be.

Nah -- its cool -- but check out that site, it's pretty bad ass.   For instance the Angels have a payroll close to 175 mil but only 87 mil of it is on the active roster because of injuries and the sort.    That 87 mil would rank 29th tied with the Padres in overall payroll dollars.  Also, the Padres are just very poorly run.   They have a shit ton of money going to other teams for their past mistakes...    it's awful.   Meanwhile in Detroit - they have been remarkably healthy -- they have 173 million in active payroll on their 25 man and yet they are 42-49....   So, basically -- Detroit is just bad