Official 2017 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

[Troll Daddy]

9 hours ago, Stradling said:

I'll take the upside of the Nats starters over the Dodgers.  Then again I watched an average Angels team split with the Dodgers. 

I wouldn't read too much into that

[Stradling]

22 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

I wouldn't read too much into that

That doesn't surprise me at all. 

[GoodTimesGoneBad]

What would it take to get Kinsler and Castellanos from the Tigers? We could sign Cain in the offseason and be set for a few years. 

[jsnpritchett]

37 minutes ago, GoodTimesGoneBad said:

What would it take to get Kinsler and Castellanos from the Tigers? We could sign Cain in the offseason and be set for a few years. 

Kinsler is having his worst year ever, just turned 35, and is owed $12M next year (EDIT: ...if his option is picked up, that is.  His buyout is a pretty hefty $5M, too).  Castellanos is below average defensively, and has only had one year of above average offense.  Not sure how either one really solves any problems.  I don't think either one is a difference-maker this year, if you're talking about making a push for the second wild card (which I still think is a bad idea).

[Angel Oracle]

Plus won't Cain command 5 years/$100 million?    With several key OF prospects at different levels, do they really want to commit that much money for a FA OFer?   Corner INF and middle rotation pitching should be the main focus for FA signings. 

[jsnpritchett]

6 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Plus won't Cain command 5 years/$100 million?    With several key OF prospects at different levels, do they really want to commit that much money for a FA OFer?   Corner INF and middle rotation pitching should be the main focus for FA signings. 

Probably.  And my guess is that by 2019 at the absolute latest, people will be wondering why he got a deal at that level.

[GoodTimesGoneBad]

55 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Kinsler is having his worst year ever, just turned 35, and is owed $12M next year (EDIT: ...if his option is picked up, that is.  His buyout is a pretty hefty $5M, too).  Castellanos is below average defensively, and has only had one year of above average offense.  Not sure how either one really solves any problems.  I don't think either one is a difference-maker this year, if you're talking about making a push for the second wild card (which I still think is a bad idea).

While Kinsler is having a down year, a .700+ ops is something we could really use at 2B and we wouldn't have to give up much with Detroit cutting costs. Castellanos is a young, cost controlled 3B that would bring some stability to the position for years to come. I think with Simmons at SS we can continue to get away with not having elite defense at 3B. 

As far as Cain goes, any free agent we pick up will cost major dollars. I feel like Cain has been pretty consistent with getting on base and we need people on base when Trout gets to the plate. I'd rather overpay for Cain and have a consistently good defensive outfield than continue to run a new player out in LF every year and hope for the best. 

The key is getting better without depleting our farm system to where it was a couple years ago. 

[Lou]

Kinsler has 10 teams on his no-trade list. I know the Dodgers are one of them. Wouldn't be a stretch to think we are,too. 

He has stated that he will only waive the no-trade clause if the team signs him to an extension first. 

Edited July 17, 2017 by Lou

[Troll Daddy]

25 minutes ago, Lou said:

Kinsler has 10 teams on his no-trade list. I know the Dodgers are one of them. Wouldn't be a stretch to think we are,too. 

He has stated that he will only waive the no-trade clause if the team signs him to an extension first. 

I have no problem with a modest extension 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Troll Daddy said:

I have no problem with a modest extension 

Yeah, I'm sure that's what Kinsler wants to waive the clause, a modest extension. 

[Angel Oracle]

Get off of our message board, Kinsler!

[Ohtaniland]

35 minutes ago, Lou said:

Kinsler has 10 teams on his no-trade list. I know the Dodgers are one of them. Wouldn't be a stretch to think we are,too. 

He has stated that he will only waive the no-trade clause if the team signs him to an extension first. 

If he waived his no-trade for us based only on signing an extension.....we don't want him. 

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, CALZONE said:

If he waived his no-trade for us based only on signing an extension.....we don't want him. 

That's the only reason he would waive it for any team 

[Troll Daddy]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's the only reason he would waive it for any team 

but Mike Trout 

[Ohtaniland]

8 minutes ago, Lou said:

That's the only reason he would waive it for any team 

Then waive bye-bye to him.

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 7/16/2017 at 10:18 AM, nando714 said:

Nats can try all they want

no one is gonna beat LA in the NL playoffs

Yeah, the dogs look pretty amazing right now. They finally have a bullpen. 

I wouldnt write the nats off just yet though. If they fix their pen its pretty close. And the cubs can still come around and make it interesting.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

Yeah, I'm sure that's what Kinsler wants to waive the clause, a modest extension. 

Im gonna replace my "sorry, its cold in here" with "hey, its a modest extension" as my go to excuse.

[GoodTimesGoneBad]

JDM to AZ? 

[Second Base]

2 minutes ago, GoodTimesGoneBad said:

JDM to AZ? 

Prospects galore....

[CanadianHalo]

Woah.

AZ going for it

[Stradling]

The Tigers need to trade Verlander to the Dodgers.  

[jsnpritchett]

9 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

Prospects galore....

I'm not familiar w/ any of them.  Doesn't look like any are top 100 prospects.  2 of the 3 are very, very young.

[Scott34]

That's quite a good deal for Arizona. 

[totdprods]

Hot Stove is cookin' early this year.

[tdawg87]

5 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

I'm not familiar w/ any of them.  Doesn't look like any are top 100 prospects.  2 of the 3 are very, very young.

Arizona has a worse system than we do so yeah.