Pujols has been terrible

[GrittyVeterans]

48 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

In pujols' defense (and its hard to defend), but his lack of runs scored isnt just a reflection on how bad hes been, but also how bad the giys behind him have been.

Hes obviously a horrible runner, snd doesnt get on base. But besides simmons hitting behind him, nobody else has really been anything this year either.

Sorry but when you have a .270 OBP, you can't blame the guys behind you for not driving you in. You have to reach base at a decent clip to be able to do that

[ten ocho recon scout]

7 hours ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Sorry but when you have a .270 OBP, you can't blame the guys behind you for not driving you in. You have to reach base at a decent clip to be able to do that

Im not at all trying to defend pujols. Not in any way (if thats how i came off). But take him out of the equation, bench him. Replace him in the lineup with cron and valbuena full time. Does it get better?

Again, pujols sucks, badly, but outside of trout and simmons, nobody has done anything this year. Maybin was hot for a minute, so was calhoun. But both had maybe a hot month out of 5(?). EYJ (for gods sake) was outperforming almost everyone on the team. Currently revere is the go to guy outside of trout and simmons.

Again, im not trying to deflect attention from pujols. The guys been horrible, and if anyone should be platooned its him. But the other options, valbuena and cron, IMO, havent made a case they are any better.

For the sake of argument, lets remove pujols (the bad and ugly) and simmons (the good). The other than trout lineup is some mix of calhoun, cron,valbuena, espinoza (since were talking year long), maldonado. Maybin or revere and escobar up top generally, so they wouldnt factor in the pujols runs scored.

Only calhoun of that group has an obp higher than .300 (with a .240 avg and 390(!) Slugging). The next best of the group is maldonado...cron still hasnt turned the corner, valbuena is borderline espinoza. 

My point mainly is that whoever mentioned above the pending FA 1B/DH group, aside from duda, the rest arent anything better, and its the same thing weve been doing the last few years. We keep doing these 1 year "if he plays like he did before" contracts, and all have pretty much blow. 

The only way we actually improve is to aquire legit, no bullshit players. Not gambles. If we go into this winter and sign moustakas and say upton, and cowart hits to his ceiling next year, calhoun remembers how to hit, and simmons is for real, this team is a complete 180.

Im not saying thats what we should do. Id personally still have a plan to make 2019 our turnaround (thats just me). But if we aim for 19 and go cheap in 18(again), or we trade for upton and moustakas, but simmons regresses, calhoun doesnt improve and cowart plays to his floor....both scenarios end up the same. We have a chance for the trout innings, and the rest of the game is dogshit (get what you pay for), and albert takes the blame for an entire roster minus 1-3 guys being scrubs.

[Angel Oracle]

That's 1-22, Ghost Pujols.

.228 BA, just under .200 BA since June 25.   But yeah, Sosh will continue to bat him 3rd.

I guess it helps to get a better draft pick.   Otherwise, blech

[YouthofToday]

Hopefully the term Appiered Can be changed to being Albertrossed after this season. Dude doesn't belong in a MLB uniform anymore. 

[Angel Oracle]

Get hit #3000 in 2018, and then

RETIRE!!!!!!!

[YouthofToday]

Just now, Angel Oracle said:

Get hit #3000 in 2018, and then

RETIRE!!!!!!!

Dude, we cannot afford him to be on the 2018 roster if the goal isn't to suck for a top draft pick. 

[YouthofToday]

Considering we aren't making the playoffs I hope he continues to "hit" in the lineuP. Might help us land a top 10 pick!!!

[fan_since79]

Pujols and his .228 average (.204 since June 1st) absolutely must be moved down in the order.

The refusal to do so is crazy, and leads me to question the so-called "brilliance" of this manager. Seems utterly stupid, or just plain stubborn.

 

[NrM]

5 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

I can't help but notice Pujols' slash line keeps getting worse. Must just be a slump.

totally just a slump

[ten ocho recon scout]

They shoot horses with legs in better shape than his.

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

They shoot horses with legs in better shape than his.

What does Lackey have do to with this?

[ten ocho recon scout]

Arroz con fried pollo and beer?

[krAbs]

Pujols 0 for his last 10. Before that he had one hit, and before that he went 0 for 13. The problem is he just isn't very good anymore.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Has been-otaur

[IEAngelsfan]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Has been-otaur

You should AO yourself for posting this shirtless Pujols.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Did you want sosh?

 

Gimme a few, brb

[YouthofToday]

22 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

Pujols and his .228 average (.204 since June 1st) absolutely must be moved down in the order.

The refusal to do so is crazy, and leads me to question the so-called "brilliance" of this manager. Seems utterly stupid, or just plain stubborn.

 

He shouldn't be starting if we are trying to win games. 

[Docwaukee]

21 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Did you want sosh?

 

Gimme a few, brb

please don't.  

[Docwaukee]

The scariest stat for Albert this year?  

26 bb in 415 ab this year.  

just 1 bb in his  last 66 pa.  

I know most won't agree, but just a very thin, slight, slim, narrow sliver of pity has crept in.  Only for a very brief microsecond.  and now it's gone. 

[GrittyVeterans]

He's making about $161,000 per game this year. So about $35,000-$40,000 for every worthless at bat he takes

 

In other words he makes over 3 times more than the per capita GDP every single fucking game. Crazy

[ten ocho recon scout]

9 hours ago, Dochalo said:

The scariest stat for Albert this year?  

26 bb in 415 ab this year.  

just 1 bb in his  last 66 pa.  

I know most won't agree, but just a very thin, slight, slim, narrow sliver of pity has crept in.  Only for a very brief microsecond.  and now it's gone. 

I actually do feel 'kind of' bad. He went from an all time great to brutally bad faster than anyone i can think of. Thats got to be hard to accept. We rag him (as we should), but i think hes still 100 percent effort wise.

That said, the pity drops when you look at the fact hes doing it to himself. Hes made more than enough money and legacy to walk away at this point....sticking around to pad stats and collect a check isnt too admirable.

If this keeps up (no reason to think it wont) hes going to have to take a long hard look at reality this winter and decide how he wants his career to end. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

He reminds me of kareem the last 2 years.

At least those were only 2.

[Angel Oracle]

Willie Mays was considered to be really bad at baseball in 1973, his last MLB season.   His OPS was .647 in 1973.

Pujols currently has a .651 OPS in probably at least 3 quarters more at bats than Mays had in 1973.

1 + 1 = 2.

[Glen]

Eppler really, really needs to find another medium-big bat this offseason to give us an alternative to Pujols. 

[fan_since79]

A normal manager would look at the situation (it's impossible not to notice) and first, move him down in the lineup. Second, if he doesn't improve at least a little bit, a normal manager would start to look at a platoon at DH. Pujols and Valbuena makes some sense (righty and lefty), but you could still have Albert play against some righthanders, just not every single day. Go with some matchups. If he has done well against a certain pitcher, pencil him in.

Move him down. Immediately. That's a no-brainer. Then start to slowly limit his playing time, depending on his production. That's what a normal, rational manager would do.

But...Scioscia.

Edited August 9, 2017 by fan_since79