Pujols has been terrible

[CanadianHalo]

36 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

Albert's career avg has dropped 3.2 points this year from .3091 to .3059.  

If nothing changes and he ends up hitting around .230 for the rest of the year ie he goes 46-200 the rest of the way, It will knock him down to .3044.  

If he hits .230 next year with in 600 at bats, he'll end the season with 3095 hits and a career BA of .300048.  If he played 2 more seasons, he would have to hit .265 to maintain a career avg of .300.  

Have a career avg of .300 might actually be important to him.  But that would mean essentially walking away after next season leaving 87 mil on the table.  

But at the end of the day, he's have his 3000 hits, 600hrs and .300 avg.  He's probably pass griffey to end up 6th on the hr list and he probably passes Musial for RBI putting him 7th all time.  He's gonna pass Ripken for GIDP no matter what he does.  

I can't imagine he's having fun right now.  I think he most likely expects to have a rebound year next year but if it doesn't happen, 2019 could be his exit tour.  

There's really nothing left for him to accomplish.  

 

There is that too and I've never really thought about it too much. You're right though, there's no way this is fun for him. I'm sure he's in pain with his foot still. It's ridiculous to think he'd just leave 90 mill on the table but who knows. He has a family and a ton of money already, he doesn't NEED to be doing anything he doesn't like anymore. 

After next season the .300 thing may be important to him and he may approach the Angels about working something out?

Maybe find a middle ground between the money he'd be owed if he hung around and a chunk of change to call it a career. 

[Stradling]

46 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

There is that too and I've never really thought about it too much. You're right though, there's no way this is fun for him. I'm sure he's in pain with his foot still. It's ridiculous to think he'd just leave 90 mill on the table but who knows. He has a family and a ton of money already, he doesn't NEED to be doing anything he doesn't like anymore. 

After next season the .300 thing may be important to him and he may approach the Angels about working something out?

Maybe find a middle ground between the money he'd be owed if he hung around and a chunk of change to call it a career. 

I've gone on record saying he will retire early and I have been scoffed at.  I still think he will.   Everyone talks about how important his legacy is to him, well I think we will see that when it comes down to whether or not he will retire.  I would say the day will come probably at the end of next season where he will call it quits.  I know what I will do when I no longer need to work and can no longer work at an acceptable level.  I am overpaid for what I do but once I have the money I need and the debt I have paid off, I will gladly spend time with my family rather than go get overpaid. Albert has all the money he or his family will ever need.  His kids will be rich.  He has done enough for the community and will still be able to lend his name to charitable events.  He will be able to retire and not change his lifestyle.  Dude is in pain, at some point he will walk away from a lot of money.  

[JustATroutFan]

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

Albert's career avg has dropped 3.2 points this year from .3091 to .3059.  

If nothing changes and he ends up hitting around .230 for the rest of the year ie he goes 46-200 the rest of the way, It will knock him down to .3044.  

If he hits .230 next year with in 600 at bats, he'll end the season with 3095 hits and a career BA of .300048.  If he played 2 more seasons, he would have to hit .265 to maintain a career avg of .300.  

Have a career avg of .300 might actually be important to him.  But that would mean essentially walking away after next season leaving 87 mil on the table.  

But at the end of the day, he's have his 3000 hits, 600hrs and .300 avg.  He's probably pass griffey to end up 6th on the hr list and he probably passes Musial for RBI putting him 7th all time.  He's gonna pass Ripken for GIDP no matter what he does.  

I can't imagine he's having fun right now.  I think he most likely expects to have a rebound year next year but if it doesn't happen, 2019 could be his exit tour.  

There's really nothing left for him to accomplish.  

 

Not sure if there has ever been a player who had a career batting average over .320 after 11 seasons and ended their career with a batting average under .300. What a steep decline.

[JustATroutFan]

Haven't found any player so far that had a career batting average over .320 in his first 11 seasons that finished under .300 for his career. Frank Thomas was close though. In his first 11 years, "The Big Hurt" batted .321 but ended his career at a .301 career batting average. So, the great Frank Thomas retired at the right time if his career goals  were to hit at least 500 career home runs and a .300 average. Pujols won't be the first, will he? All depends.

[stormngt]

It is funny.  Pujols does look lost at the plate.  However i am willing to bet if we DFA him today a would be picked up quiclkly by another team.

[stormngt]

Now before there is a mass movement to have me banned for being delusional.  Remember the new team only pays the minimum.  The angels would be on the hook for the remainder of the contract.  A lot of teams would take a chance on Pujols at minimum wage.

[Lou]

9 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Now before there is a mass mocement to have me banned for being delusional.  Remember the new team only pays the minimum.  The angels would be on the hook for the remainder of the cobtract.  A lot of teams would take a chance on Pujols at minimum wage.

I really don't see a contending team picking him up. I don't really know what every team needs. 

Who needs a crappy DH? 

[Lou]

6 hours ago, m0nkey said:

They're still winning games despite his struggles, so when he heats up, look out!

We should all carpool to the parade 

[Lou]

6 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

That's 0-23 on the road trip, Ghost Pujols!   Sub .230 BA for a career .300+ hitter!

But hey, you had a BB!

Alert Ripley's!

I did.

They didn't believe me. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

35 minutes ago, Lou said:

I really don't see a contending team picking him up. I don't really know what every team needs. 

Who needs a crappy DH? 

No contender would. You know some shit franchise like the White Sox would pick him up. 

[jsnpritchett]

On 7/28/2017 at 9:02 PM, Jeff Fletcher said:

Pujols was hot just before the ASB. I looked it up today and he hit about .300 over about 55 ABs prior to this 0-21. It's a bad 5 games. He's had a lot of bad ABs and a few good ones where they've caught the balls.

hes slumping but it's not anything out of the range of a normal MLB player slump. 

Yet. 

And in a 27 game stretch leading up to July 4, he slashed .211/.248/.321.  What's your point? He's been terrible this year, and it's not just a 5 game stretch that's leading people to that conclusion.

[tdawg87]

I think Jeff is just trying to provide a different perspective. He isn't stupid. He sees what everyone else sees. But I don't think it would behoove him to come out and say it, considering his profession. 

[Jobu]

His profession is reporter. If a reporter can't talk about a thing that's actually happening...

[stormngt]

11 hours ago, Lou said:

I really don't see a contending team picking him up. I don't really know what every team needs. 

Who needs a crappy DH? 

You don't think a team would pick him up and pay 500k on a gamble that he could get hot?  Be can't be serious!

[tdawg87]

6 minutes ago, Jobu said:

His profession is reporter. If a reporter can't talk about a thing that's actually happening...

I meant he isn't going to come out and say "Yeah Pujols is obviously finished and needs to retire before he further embarrasses himself".

[Jobu]

5 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I meant he isn't going to come out and say "Yeah Pujols is obviously finished and needs to retire before he further embarrasses himself".

Well I don't think that's the issue with what he said. It was the "he's in a slump, just like anyone else", ignoring all the context that makes the slump remarkable.

[Stradling]

He was basically showing that while he is awful right now, he wasn't awful for the 58 at bats prior to this 0-20+ slump.  Jeff isn't a talking head for the team, hell is will tell you himself that he isn't a fan of the team, I think he said the Orioles, maybe, when I asked him.  Also if you happen to watch any of those reporter round table bits they do on the pregame show he is the guy that is always most critical of the team and the most conservative with his predictions.  I like having him here, it gives us a little insight into the team that a lot of people don't get.  He is FAR from a trolldaddy.  

[fan_since79]

So Pujols is just "in a slump", huh?

A 46-game slump??

since June 1st: .204 BA, .247 OBP, .573 OPS

 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

So Pujols is just "in a slump", huh?

A 46-game slump??

since June 1st: .204 BA, .247 OBP, .573 OPS

 

Well yes he is in a slump because he hasn't had a hit in 6 games.  And yes he is in steep decline.  

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I think Jeff is just trying to provide a different perspective. He isn't stupid. He sees what everyone else sees. But I don't think it would behoove him to come out and say it, considering his profession. 

Perhaps this is a reason his profession is dying? Who is going to buy a newspaper if you're just gona hear the company line?

[Stradling]

Just now, AngelsLakersFan said:

Perhaps this is a reason his profession is dying? Who is going to buy a newspaper if you're just gona hear the company line?

A little logic will tell you that what you said isn't true.  HIs profession is struggling (dying) because we consume information differently than we once did.  Also they don't write articles for Angel Fanatics, they write them for the casual fan who doesn't spend quite a bit of their free time on the net looking at fan websites.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Just now, Stradling said:

A little logic will tell you that what you said isn't true.  HIs profession is struggling (dying) because we consume information differently than we once did.  Also they don't write articles for Angel Fanatics, they write them for the casual fan who doesn't spend quite a bit of their free time on the net looking at fan websites.

We have more options now. We tend to choose to consume the information that more closely aligns with what we believe. If your point of view is considerably off from what a majority of people seem to believe then those people will not read your material let alone pay for it.

If I am going to pay for the Register or any other newspaper I expect the journalism to be top notch, above and beyond free sources, not afraid of asking the tough questions or bringing up unpleasant subjects. I mean, Pujols has been awful all year, and has anyone really talked about it outside this board? 

[jsnpritchett]

55 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

So Pujols is just "in a slump", huh?

A 46-game slump??

since June 1st: .204 BA, .247 OBP, .573 OPS

 

Yeah, but what about those 55 ABs?

[Angel Oracle]

He sure isn't "Bad Albert", that much is for sure.    

[m0nkey]

If you only include at bats where he hits a home run, he has an OPS of 5.000, which would lead the league. He'll be fine