The Official 2017-2018 Anaheim Ducks Thread

[Pujols4MVP]

18 hours ago, nate said:

Weak game for Miller, this loss was on him, at least two of those goals shouldn't have scored.

Since they had a day off after the Capitals game Gibson should have played last night, tonight vs Rangers is where Miller should have been used instead(Rangers are not as good as the Devils this year). Devils are now in first place in their division.

[UndertheHalo]

more evidence that Megna should be playing every day.  The Ducks have built a defense that doesn’t defend. 

 

[HaloCory22]

Just imagine how damn good Gibby would be with a good defense right now lol.

[gotbeer]

Putting on the breaks when you have a huge 4-1 odd man advantage might have been worth the effort there Manson.

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

more evidence that Megna should be playing every day.  The Ducks have built a defense that doesn’t defend. 

 

It's just too bad they would never replace the pylon Bieska with Megna.  

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

It's just too bad they would never replace the pylon Bieska with Megna.  

The most alarming thing to me is # of Lindholm turn overs.  I know I beat that drum constantly but i really am starting to think the Ducks made a big mistake with him.  The guy has had almost zero positive development.  If anything, he’s regressed.  It was easy to write off his getting pushed around a few years ago.  It’s not something I’m willing to keep exusing as youth anymore. 

[gotbeer]

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

The most alarming thing to me is # of Lindholm turn overs.  I know I beat that drum constantly but i really am starting to think the Ducks made a big mistake with him.  The guy has had almost zero positive development.  If anything, he’s regressed.  It was easy to write off his getting pushed around a few years ago.  It’s not something I’m willing to keep exusing as youth anymore. 

Montour is high also.  But he was never known as being a defenseman.  More of an offensive defenseman.  Same can't be said about Lindholm.  He just seems to get muscled off the puck a lot.  

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, gotbeer said:

Montour is high also.  But he was never known as being a defenseman.  More of an offensive defenseman.  Same can't be said about Lindholm.  He just seems to get muscled off the puck a lot.  

Right, and it’s crazy because he’s a big guy.  He just plays timid and it kills me.  I hate it when he gets trapped on the boards and makes some weak ass back handed play to whatever pressuring forward.  He does it all the time.   Lindholm is supposed to be a rock.  He just hasn’t been. 

And Montour definitely needs to clean it up, but I’m ok with giving the rookie some time. 

[gotbeer]

Yay.  Everyone standing around watching the play.  

[gotbeer]

I love when the announcers say Bieska made a great play on defense.  When in reality he got outhustled to the puck, and got lucky the puck squirted free.  It's ok to take cock out of mouth sometimes announcers.

[UndertheHalo]

Wtf Montour got scratched today ?

[gotbeer]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

Wtf Montour got scratched today ?

Healthy scratch.  So they can play more pylons.

[UndertheHalo]

I don’t get it.  Because he was a -3 ? The whole team has eaten shit repeatedly this season. 

Teach that lesson RC. 

Edited December 20, 2017 by UndertheHalo

[gotbeer]

Yay.  More standing around.

[gotbeer]

Looks like the Ritchie on the top line experiment is over.  Roy is on the Getz/Rakell line now.  What a disappointment Ritchie has been.  

[UndertheHalo]

Trash

[NJHalo]

Devils goalie Kinkaid presents Adam Henrique with a gift on behalf of his ex teammates who never got a chance to show their appreciation.

 

[Pujols4MVP]

Carlyle has lost the team, his players don't care in the 3rd period anymore, his system is crap, the players don't do well with it anymore at all & i think they've grown tired of his system, the 1st year back the guys did well but the 2nd year with Carlyle back they don't seem to be playing well.

Carlyle needs to be fired, even an league average coach would implement a modern system that would work better & the sooner they fire him the better as it'll give the next coach time to get them adjusted to a modern system.

[NJHalo]

6 hours ago, Scioscia4MVP said:

Carlyle has lost the team, his players don't care in the 3rd period anymore, his system is crap, the players don't do well with it anymore at all & i think they've grown tired of his system, the 1st year back the guys did well but the 2nd year with Carlyle back they don't seem to be playing well.

Carlyle needs to be fired, even an league average coach would implement a modern system that would work better & the sooner they fire him the better as it'll give the next coach time to get them adjusted to a modern system.

As a NY Rangers fan, I have to agree with your assessment of the 3rd period play, at least for last nights game. Ducks seemed to be going through the motions

[nate]

They seem like that in every game.  I miss BB's system of constant pressure and forecheck instead of the stupid dump in and hope for a turnover.

Part of the problem is having Welinski, Bieksa and Beauch out there.  Welinski has been beyond awful as with Bieksa.  Beauch is who he is, he makes smart plays but his age has slowed him down too much, he doesn't make the stupid mistakes that Bieksa does but just gets beat too easily at times.

The other thing is that this forward group just isn't good.  We know Silf is streaky so it is no surprise that he goes on scoring streaks, but what about Rakell?  He is awol.  Without Henrique they would be lucky to ever score.

[HaloCory22]

Some of you guys really need to take a xanax lol. It's not even halfway through the season and you're wanting people fired? Come on... We're just a few points from a playoff spot with a gimp team for the entire season and we're still not healthy. Carlyle isn't going anywhere this season.

[HaloCory22]

51 minutes ago, nate said:

They seem like that in every game.  I miss BB's system of constant pressure and forecheck instead of the stupid dump in and hope for a turnover.

Part of the problem is having Welinski, Bieksa and Beauch out there.  Welinski has been beyond awful as with Bieksa.  Beauch is who he is, he makes smart plays but his age has slowed him down too much, he doesn't make the stupid mistakes that Bieksa does but just gets beat too easily at times.

The other thing is that this forward group just isn't good.  We know Silf is streaky so it is no surprise that he goes on scoring streaks, but what about Rakell?  He is awol.  Without Henrique they would be lucky to ever score.

Yeah we're definitely missing another scoring threat out there. It's noticeable. Very noticeable.

[UndertheHalo]

well, we lost Eaves and added Henrique.  Its a net gain of zero.  Now Perry is out.  I think all of us have agreed they needed to add top 6 scoring depth.  it would have been nice to see Eaves and Henrique playing at the same time with the Kesler and Getzlaf lines.

 

[nate]

Yea and Perry isn't top 6 anyway.  It is great that he has a lot of assists but he isn't a center.  He is paid to score goals.

[gotbeer]

This team won't win much with Bieska, Beauchimin and Vermette playing.  Bieska is just outmuscled, and outhustled to pucks.  In the D zone, the other team knows that all they need to do is pinch in on him, and they will get the puck.  Open ice, they will just ram him, because he's too slow to get out of the way, and turn the puck over.  When he was playing with Fowler, he was a liability because Fowler had no outlet pass, and he was usually just standing around, even when skating.  He thinks he is an Oman/Dman and he pinches in on offense, but half the time, he never cycles back to the point like Fowler does, mainly because he is so slow.  Bieska is now a one trick pony, in that he will go for the hit to force a turnover, with half to 3/4 of the time, the other player making him miss and having a free run to the net.  He truly is a pylon on the ice.  

Beauchimin is a lot like Bieska also.  But he is smart enough to not pinch in the O-zone.  But he is just getting pinned and outworked in the D-zone and giving away puck after puck.  He doesn't have the speed to move the puck out of the D-zone, which puts a lot of strain on whoever his partner is.  

These two guys, whenever they are on the ice, the other team will completely do a full court press on them.  Half the time they can't exit their own zone, which is a huge part of our problems on D.  As long as these two and Holzer play, the D will continue to be terrible.

Vermette.  Wins a lot of faceoffs.  Other than that, he gets worked off pucks.  The shitty thing is, in the O-zone, he is in the right places.  But he has zero backhand.  And 75% of the time, he will swing and miss on any shot not on a tee.  The most infuriating thing about him, is that he will get a one time shot to an open net, and miss the puck.  You watch other scrubs on other teams, and they bury these shots.  But the Ducks, and especially Vermette, finds new and creative ways to blow these shots.