Thanks again, Jerry

[JustATroutFan]

42 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Yeah.... Those 40+ sub 3.00 ER starts at AA-AAA and outstanding peripherals have nothing to do with it.   Even last year when he wasn't wrecking house he managed to allow fewer hits than IP while nearly striking out a batter an inning.

There is more to pitching performance than looking at someone's ERA.

You aren't too far off there...   Clevinger has a wider tool set and experienced much greater success in the higher levels than has Meyer, but they both have had command issues which slowed their rise to MLB.   (injuries too).

FIP is an interesting stat to look at as well. But his FIP last year wasn't good either. 

[Stradling]

12 hours ago, Kevin said:

He'd probably ask to be taken off life support...... cause you know...... he's a quitter.

Most of this place would be convinced Sosh pulled the plug.  

[stormngt]

10 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Most of this place would be convinced Sosh pulled the plug.  

Funny!  But true

[Inside Pitch]

53 minutes ago, JustATroutFan said:

FIP is an interesting stat to look at as well. But his FIP last year wasn't good either. 

Wasn't even referring to FIP -- but even that is a better measure than ERA.   I tend to track more predictive stats....  pFB, kS%, Ct%, SwS%... There is a strong correlation with certain factors and future success.  Clevinger has been above average in most of the predictive stats at every level -- even last year in the AL he beat the league averages in 3 of the 4 I mentioned -- his walk rates and associated predictive stats are his biggest problem.