Cameron Maybin

[Chuck]

12 hours ago, CALZONE said:

Detroit doesn't really have a CF replacement so it was a salary dump and not about Alcantara. 

But if you want my opinion, it's more about why Maybin?

He has a history of injuries,  NO all star games,  NO gold gloves,  NO playoff appearances,  not much pop in his bat,  has very little experience in LF,  he was traded four previous times prior to his trade to the Angels and he was suspended for using amphetamines. Last year he hit good in what was another one of his "partial seasons" but he committed 4 errors and had zero assists. 

But I will sit back and watch the one stop gap season he will be here.

They have Anthony Gose, Mikie Mahtook, JaCoby Jones,  Alex Presley, Tyler Collins and Mikie Mahtook all shooting for the CF job this spring. They had a bunch of depth there and when offered a top-10 prospect reliever from another org for a player in a walk year, you pull the trigger. 

Maybin was a top draft pick and ex-top prospect and enjoyed success last season and in 2011 with the Padres. His 2015 season with the Braves wasn't bad, coming off  back-to-back injury riddled seasons. 

The point is, he's got a world of talent so it was a good gable to trade for him. Eppler isn't stupid though and signed Revere in case Maybin falters. 

Either way, our LF position should be night and day better than the past few years. 

[Inside Pitch]

43 minutes ago, CALZONE said:

I'll take the rock solid evidence that the Tigers traded him away twice over "you guys will love him". Oh and let's not forget the other three teams that decided to trade him. He must not be the type of player that you build around because he's been floating around the league like a rented car.

Just a few of the guys he's been traded for...  

Miguel Cabrera/Dontrelle Willis.    

Craig Kimbrel/Upton.  

Edward Mujica/Ryan Weber.    

Twice teams have given up two players to get him. 

But I'm certain those rock solid facts mean nothing to you.    

 

[Inside Pitch]

13 hours ago, CALZONE said:

Detroit doesn't really have a CF replacement so it was a salary dump and not about Alcantara. 

But if you want my opinion, it's more about why Maybin?

He has a history of injuries,  NO all star games,  NO gold gloves,  NO playoff appearances,  not much pop in his bat,  has very little experience in LF,  he was traded four previous times prior to his trade to the Angels and he was suspended for using amphetamines. Last year he hit good in what was another one of his "partial seasons" but he committed 4 errors and had zero assists. 

But I will sit back and watch the one stop gap season he will be here.

How about 9.8 bWAR in 2404 PAs since 2011.   For perspective, Kole Calhoun has amassed 10.9 bWAR in 2142 PA's since 2012.    

Don't like bWAR?  Okay..   His 9.0 fWAR since 2011 in 2404 at bats is better than Mark Trumbo 8.5 in 3400+ PAs.

Want links?  http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=of&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2016&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=21,d&page=3_30

[Ohtaniland]

12 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Just a few of the guys he's been traded for...  

Miguel Cabrera/Dontrelle Willis.    

Craig Kimbrel/Upton.  

Edward Mujica/Ryan Weber.    

Twice teams have given up two players to get him. 

But I'm certain those rock solid facts mean nothing to you.    

 

No they don't. You generally keep players that you want to build your organization around. It's a proven fact that teams choose to not to do so around Maybin. Bottom line is that he never really became the star player that Detroit envisioned. That happens. He's a nice guy but he's injured a lot and he's never around in October.

[Inside Pitch]

10 minutes ago, CALZONE said:

No they don't. You generally keep players that you want to build your organization around. It's a proven fact that teams chose to not to do so around Maybin. Bottom line is that he never really became the star player that Detroit envisioned. That happens. He's a nice guy but he's injured a lot and he's never around in October.

The only proven fact on this message board is that you will distort "facts" to press on with your agendas.    

There is little doubt Maybin is a bust compared to what was predicted/projected for him -- everyone knows this, but he's proven to be a capable if fragile and imperfect player -- the WAR totals make that point pretty clear..   And while you will no doubt continue to drone on with the same tripe all season everyone understands he was brought is as an easily obtainable stopgap.  

Your superfluous posts about Maybin ring hollow to anyone with an ounce of intelligence.  But hey, keep yapping about "Snoop Dogg", Mr. Bunker...  

[ukyah]

14 hours ago, CALZONE said:

Detroit doesn't really have a CF replacement so it was a salary dump and not about Alcantara. 

that's what i said.

obviously, it wasn't about alcantara, because alcantara isn't even really a prospect. he's the "maybe we'll get lucky" throw in.

maybin's salary of 9 million is exactly what you would expect of a player of his type. he's pretty good, with some nice tools, but he has a mixed bag of production and durability history. those reasons are the reasons why the angels were able to pick him up for alcantara and no obligation for future seasons.

btw, if he has even a decent year, the angels are likely to try and sign him to a multi year deal. personally, i like revere better.

[Ohtaniland]

36 minutes ago, ukyah said:

that's what i said.

obviously, it wasn't about alcantara, because alcantara isn't even really a prospect. he's the "maybe we'll get lucky" throw in.

maybin's salary of 9 million is exactly what you would expect of a player of his type. he's pretty good, with some nice tools, but he has a mixed bag of production and durability history. those reasons are the reasons why the angels were able to pick him up for alcantara and no obligation for future seasons.

btw, if he has even a decent year, the angels are likely to try and sign him to a multi year deal. personally, i like revere better.

The Tigers should've kicked in some money in that deal. It was the Tigers that shopped him. 

[Angel Oracle]

On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 9:22 PM, Stradling said:

Yea, remember how hard it was to acquire Eckstein?  Remember that haul Colorado got from us for Figgins?  The perception of how easy or difficult a player was to acquire is silly.  

Did Kimera Bartee ever even make it back to the bigs after that trade with Colorado for Figgins?

[Stradling]

40 minutes ago, CALZONE said:

The Tigers should've kicked in some money in that deal. It was the Tigers that shopped him. 

How do you know that?  Is this another proven fact?

[Tank]

2 hours ago, CALZONE said:

No they don't. You generally keep players that you want to build your organization around. It's a proven fact that teams choose to not to do so around Maybin. Bottom line is that he never really became the star player that Detroit envisioned. That happens. He's a nice guy but he's injured a lot and he's never around in October.

so by extrapolation, if you had been the tigers gm at the time and florida offered you cabrera for maybin, you would have unequivocally said no.

[Chuck]

7 minutes ago, Tank said:

so by extrapolation, if you had been the tigers gm at the time and florida offered you cabrera for maybin, you would have unequivocally said no.

[VariousCrap]

5 hours ago, CALZONE said:

I'll take the rock solid evidence that the Tigers traded him away twice over "you guys will love him". Oh and let's not forget the other three teams that decided to trade him. He must not be the type of player that you build around because he's been floating around the league like a rented car.

LMAO...who said he was the type of player to build around?  Nobody.  

The Angels already have the player to build around.  Maybin is one of the pieces around Trout, which is all we need him to be.

[VariousCrap]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

How do you know that?  Is this another proven fact?

 

He doesn't know a damn thing.

 

 

[Ohtaniland]

4 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

LMAO...who said he was the type of player to build around?  Nobody.  

The Angels already have the player to build around.  Maybin is one of the pieces around Trout, which is all we need him to be.

You generally use 1st round draft picks for players that your scouts have rated high on their list. If they don't perform they usually get traded. In this case five times.

[Stradling]

Once again showing the ignorance that makes him so loveable. 

[Troll Daddy]

1 hour ago, CALZONE said:

You generally use 1st round draft picks for players that your scouts have rated high on their list. If they don't perform they usually get traded. In this case five times.

 

7 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Once again showing the ignorance that makes him so loveable. 

 

[Stradling]

30 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

 

 

You are literally a different person the past few days.  You've been on fire. It sucks you'll turn back into a pumpkin at some point.  

[Troll Daddy]

23 minutes ago, Stradling said:

You are literally a different person the past few days.  You've been on fire. It sucks you'll turn back into a pumpkin at some point.  

 

23 minutes ago, Stradling said:

You are literally a different person the past few days.  You've been on fire. It sucks you'll turn back into a pumpkin at some point.  

 

[Ohtaniland]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Once again showing the ignorance that makes him so loveable. 

Why is "Cameron Maybin gets 2 hits" even a thread? 

[IEAngelsfan]

46 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

 

 

Funny that you show this, but I just had my car serviced and my mechanic mentioned that he's been taking this and he feels like a new man.

[Stradling]

18 minutes ago, IEAngelsfan said:

Funny that you show this, but I just had my car serviced and my mechanic mentioned that he's been taking this and he feels like a new man.

That's one way to pay for a tune up. 

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, CALZONE said:

Why is "Cameron Maybin gets 2 hits" even a thread? 

I don't think that was the thread's original name -- I think it was altered after he got two hits.   Might have been TrollDaddy or a mod -- they would likely know.

[IEAngelsfan]

On 3/20/2017 at 7:36 PM, Stradling said:

That's one way to pay for a tune up. 

Based on the cost of this product, it looks like i'm paying for 6 months of this new man.  

[Troll Daddy]

On 3/18/2017 at 11:21 AM, Troll Daddy said:

Ok, yes we know you have a guaranteed spot on the starting lineup and you came into camp pumped ready to go. 

We also know you're 2-100 or it seems like it ...  it's just ST but WTF!

 

[Inside Pitch]

On 3/20/2017 at 11:02 PM, Inside Pitch said:

I don't think that was the thread's original name -- I think it was altered after he got two hits.   Might have been TrollDaddy or a mod -- they would likely know.

And changed again...