What would it take to make the 2017 season a success?

[Stradling]

20 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

I was thinking of 137 k's vs. 70 k's. 

We get it, you are not smart, which makes you commenting on whether or not someone else is smart pretty damn hilarious.  

[bloodbrother]

Altuve is better than Trout because he's a lot shorter which means he gets more out of himself than Trout really does. Duh

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, bloodbrother said:

Stop thinking then

I doubt we're in danger.  

[Inside Pitch]

5 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

I was thinking of 137 k's vs. 70 k's. 

Tell me what their walk totals were - and then tell me what the net difference between a pop/ground out and a K is..    Smart fans know this stuff...

[Oz27]

37 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Tell me what their walk totals were - and then tell me what the net difference between a pop/ground out and a K is..    Smart fans know this stuff...

Walks? Aren't they a false stat?

[Angel Oracle]

Trout doesn't disappear in September, like Altuve did in 2016.

[WeatherWonk]

10 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Trout doesn't disappear in September, like Altuve did in 2016.

That's not entirely true. September is statistically Trout's weakest month. He has only hit over .300 in September, once. That was 2015.

Yeah, Altuve hit only .276 last September. But the last three Septembers before he hit .303, .367, .357. He generally finishes strong. 

[tdawg87]

[Troll Daddy]

22 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Trout doesn't disappear in September, like Altuve did in 2016.

At least Trout waits until October to disappear.

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

The Angels played Hou. in late Sept.  Trout walked, then stole second and third. He didn't score.

I'm beginning to understand why MLB pulled their message boards. 

[Troll Daddy]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I'm beginning to understand why MLB pulled their message boards. 

Don't be so serious ... it's common knowledge that Michael Nelson Trout is the best player in baseball.

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Don't be so serious ... it's common knowledge that Michael Nelson Trout is the best player in baseball.

Thanks Rog

[Inside Pitch]

55 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

The Angels played Hou. in late Sept.  Trout walked, then stole second and third. He didn't score.

I'm sure Altuve would have willed his teammates to drive him in because that's what the better player does.  They use the force and other magical stuff.  Given Altuve's size it's likely pixie dust was involved.   Stupid Trout is too big to be a pixie.  Basically all the important stuff supports your opinions.    

Merry Xmas, Scarecrow.

[Troll Daddy]

33 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Thanks Rog

You're welcome 

 

[WeatherWonk]

So, who's left on the FA scene that could help us make 2017 a success? Many of the good players that occupied "needs" for us are gone. Nova is  gone. Encarnacion gone. Turner is gone. All the good closers are gone. Most of the decent starters are gone.

It's beginning to look like, "what you see, is what you get".

[nando714]

Playoffs other than that it's a failure 

[Ohtaniland]

On December 23, 2016 at 0:02 PM, nando714 said:

Playoffs other than that it's a failure 

The Cleveland Browns won today so we have a chance.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 12/22/2016 at 6:38 AM, ANAHEIMBOB said:

I was thinking of 137 k's vs. 70 k's. 

José Altuve 60 BB - 108 R - .396 OBP

Mike Trout 116 BB - 123 R - .441 OBP

 

[Tank]

On 12/23/2016 at 10:47 AM, ANAHEIMBOB said:

The Angels played Hou. in late Sept.  Trout walked, then stole second and third. He didn't score.

well clearly he should have stolen home! what a hack! trade him now, eppler!

[Tank]

2 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

All those RBI's missed because of K's and not moving the runners over. Albert could have had another 25 to 30 RBI's.

so are you using this argument - more strikeouts than another player - as justification for why you think altuve is better than trout?

[Inside Pitch]

Making more outs > Striking out.  

A player on a team 11 games out is more valuable than a player on a team 21 games back.

--  An idiots guide to baseball

 

[Troll Daddy]

[Tank]

31 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

Trout is the better player. I couldn't give Trout the MVP because the Angels finish 21 games back.  I just think Altuve was more valuable  to Houston then Trout was to the Angels.

i'll agree that the working definition for MVP has turned instead into "who's the best player in the league?", and i think there's a good discussion to be had about who contributes more to their teams' success. on this board, however, that discussion isn't the one you ended up having.

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

All those RBI's missed because of K's and not moving the runners over. Albert could have had another 25 to 30 RBI's.

all those double plays Altuve hit into.  Correa could have had so many more RBI.  

[Blarg]

For myself success would be the Angels turning the corner and moving towards being as strong as the previous decade was. This one feels a little bit like the 90's with a couple of talented players but not much built around them. A team not yet comprised.