And your 2016 AL MVP is...Trout!

[Ohtaniland]

#NOTMYMVP protests are scheduled to take place in Boston and Houston today. 

[Ohtaniland]

2 hours ago, LegendaryPujols#5 said:

His WAR stats were sky high...  No one can match him and next year,  I am seeing a 40-40 happening. 

I don't understand WAR yet! 

Just imagine what kind of numbers he would produce in a hitters ballpark. I'm sure he does.

[Homebrewer]

Trout

Bryant

Rizzo

Schwarber.

Come on Theo, get er done!

[Blarg]

Is there a Cubswin.com you can join?

[TroutField]

17 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Is there a Cubswin.com you can join?

He really doesn't add anything to the conversation about the Angels 

[ukyah]

1 hour ago, Homebrewer said:

Trout

Bryant

Rizzo

Schwarber.

Come on Theo, get er done!

 

what if they traded trout for theo? whooooooaaaaaaa.

[Angel Oracle]

12 hours ago, Oz27 said:

Our friend who put Trout seventh has made questionable voting decisions before too...

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-11-15/sports/sp-64865_1_mvp-award

 

A-Rod had a 9.4 bWAR season in 1996. This voter had him six places behind Juan Gonzalez, who was worth 3.8 WAR.

Yep, there's always one in every crowd.   Hickey is a joke.

[Angel Oracle]

18 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

 Damn, consider this re: the MVP. Mike Trout has now finished second or higher in MVP balloting in each of his first five full seasons in the majors.

Per Chuck's FB post, that matches Barroids (2000-2004) as the only players to ever have 5 straight 1st/2nd place MVP finishes, and makes Trout the first EVER MLB player to do it in his first 5 MLB seasons.

[ScottT]

Again... turned on the tv and someone (John Heyman this time) is saying the only difference between Trout and Betts... offensively... was walks.

Don't forget the park effect, people.  

[Troutstanding]

Trout’s 2016 numbers in standard statistics show a player that is significantly more valuable than Betts, though not by a huge degree. 
Trout: .315 / .441 / .550 = .991 OPS
Betts: .318 / .363 / .534 = .897 OPS
They are basically equal in batting average, which is a stat that has very little meaning when we have so many other things we can look at. Their slugging percentages are very similar, with Trout having a very small, but not worthless, lead. As James pointed out, Trout’s OBP is vastly superior to Betts, by a whopping 78 points! This is an absolutely huge difference. Mookie Betts made 86 more outs than Trout! 
So, that’s looking simply at a typical triple slash, which has its many flaws. Perhaps the biggest is that it does nothing to take into account these two very important factors. The first is that these old-fashioned stats do nothing to consider which parks a player plays in. These numbers also do nothing to provide context in any way, such as how a player’s team performed. 
For instance, let’s take a look at how these two star athletes would have performed when their park factors (as in, which parks they played in over the course of the year) are taken into account. As you may know, Betts plays in a very hitter friendly park, while Trout plays in a somewhat pitcher friendly park. OPS+ is just like OPS but it considers park factors and puts the number on a scale with 100 is average. If you’re OPS+ is greater than 100, your above average. Lower than 100, you’re below average in OPS+. 
OPS+
Trout: 173
Betts: 131
This is the difference between a great offensive season, and an elite one. 
Now, for my favorite way to show how much more valuable a player Trout was in 2016 than Betts, let’s neutralize their statistics in the sense that we’re going to put each of them on a completely average team in a completely average park. With this team neutralization, Trout now has the upper hand in virtually every category, which creates a rather dramatic split shown below. 
Team and park neutralized slash lines:
Trout:
.333 / .461 / .583 = 1.044 OPS
Betts:
.317 / .362 / .534 = .896 OPS
Now of course offense isn’t the only important way to evaluate a player. Defense is vital, and base running is also important. Problem is that defensive metrics are not very meaningful over the course of one season. The general consensus is that it takes about three season’s worth of data for them to become more usable. In any case, if we use Wins Above Replacement, which factors in defense and base running, we’ll still see Trout with a significant lead.
bWAR:
Trout: 10.6
Betts: 9.6
fWAR:
Trout: 9.4
Betts: 7.8
The two versions of WAR use different formulas. Betts had a far superior defensive WAR to Trout, but it’s challenging at best to gauge how accurate that is. It may be accurate, but it is known that single-season dWAR totals are fluky. 
According to Fangraphs, Betts had the slightly superior base running score:
Trout: 9.3
Betts: 9.8
Given neutral teams, the change in win probability given by a batter:
Win Probability Added:
Trout: 6.5
Betts: 3.1
Betts had an absolutely outstanding season, which helps illustrate just what kind of player Mike Trout is, since his season was a lot better than Bett’s. Of course there are many, many more statistics to compare the two. Any way you look at it, Trout is clearly deserving of the award, as no other player, including Betts, came even remotely close to his performance, and thus his value, playoff contention be damned.

[ettin]

6 hours ago, CALZONE said:

Just imagine what kind of numbers he would produce in a hitters ballpark. I'm sure he does.

I don't have to imagine, the numbers can clearly be seen in wRC+.

[Slegnaac]

17 hours ago, Oz27 said:

How do we decide which stats are made up and which ones aren't. So many questions.

Don't try and confuse the issue with your logical questions .

 

Congratulations Mike!

[disarcina]

"And in a major upset, the best player in MLB wins the 2016 AL MVP Award........"

[disarcina]

Seriously, folks, how long can we keep this guy - the best player in all of MLB - on our losing team which seems to be on a pre-2016 Chicago Cubs type drought of being competitive again.

Don't think Trout can wait 108 weeks (that's more than two years), 108 months (that's 9 years !!) let alone 108 years.

Right now, I don't see the Halos being competitive in 2017 and 2018 remains questionable.

[Ohtaniland]

1 hour ago, ScottT said:

Again... turned on the tv and someone (John Heyman this time) is saying the only difference between Trout and Betts... offensively... was walks.

Don't forget the park effect, people.  

Trout has never hit a home run at Fenway.

[Stradling]

8 hours ago, CALZONE said:

Just imagine what kind of numbers he would produce in a hitters ballpark. I'm sure he does.

Once again you are putting your thoughts on what you think he should or could be thinking.  I'll wait until he comes across like a me guy or a numbers guy before I think like that.  

[Stradling]

7 hours ago, Homebrewer said:

Trout

Bryant

Rizzo

Schwarber.

Come on Theo, get er done!

Yep, he will just cost you Bryant, Rizzo and Scwarber with a side of Baez. 

[Angel Oracle]

52 minutes ago, CALZONE said:

Trout has never hit a home run at Fenway.

True, but he is 26-70 (.371 BA) with 8 doubles and a triple so far.    He hits a lot of drives that don't get up to 40 feet off the ground.   That might contribute to 9 XBH's, but 0 HR's. 

[Taylor]

17 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

True, but he is 26-70 (.371 BA) with 8 doubles and a triple so far.    He hits a lot of drives that don't get up to 40 feet off the ground.   That might contribute to 9 XBH's, but 0 HR's. 

But how many RBIs?

[Angels#1Fan]

Mike Trout is the most interesting man in the world!

Congrats!