Official MLB Hot Stove Thread (no Angels rumors or news here)

[CanadianHalo]

Well we obviously don't have what it takes to get Kinsler

[totdprods]

16 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Well we obviously don't have what it takes to get Kinsler

If we wanted, we could eat a ton of salary from the Tigers by taking any combo of Kinsler, Sanchez, KRod, or Martinez.

It'd blow up our salary like crazy for a year but most or all of those only have a year remaining I think. Would give us a shot at contending without decimating the farm or committing tons of money into long-term plans.

[CanadianHalo]

35 minutes ago, totdprods said:

If we wanted, we could eat a ton of salary from the Tigers by taking any combo of Kinsler, Sanchez, KRod, or Martinez.

It'd blow up our salary like crazy for a year but most or all of those only have a year remaining I think. Would give us a shot at contending without decimating the farm or committing tons of money into long-term plans.

Yeah that's why I including the Sanchez tweet even though it had nothing to do with Kinsler. Instead of paying Nova we could take on a good chunk of the Sanchez contract. 

We could then try and dump Escobar for salary purposes and snag a guy like Solarte to play 3rd. Kinsler would replace Escobar in leadoff role 

[totdprods]

2 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Yeah that's why I including the Sanchez tweet even though it had nothing to do with Kinsler. Instead of paying Nova we could take on a good chunk of the Sanchez contract. 

We could then try and dump Escobar for salary purposes and snag a guy like Solarte to play 3rd. Kinsler would replace Escobar in leadoff role 

I like it.

[totdprods]

Desmond to the Rockies, I guess as a first baseman?

[JAHV76]

Rangers sign their CF and get a first round pick for Desmond signing with the Rockies.

 

[CanadianHalo]

21 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I like it.

I honestly don't think we're being unrealistic with some of our ideas. So we'll find out soon enough if Eppler meant it when he saying they're "intending to contend" or if they're "pretending to content". Thanks to Calzone for the last part there.

[totdprods]

5 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

I honestly don't think we're being unrealistic with some of our ideas. So we'll find out soon enough if Eppler meant it when he saying they're "intending to contend" or if they're "pretending to content". Thanks to Calzone for the last part there.

I think Billy is keeping an open mind. Our core is good enough to contend every single year for the foreseeable future - it's not like we're the Padres, Twins, Braves, or Athletics. If he gets an opportunity to buy a big splash without risking too much harm, he will do it, but if prices or risk get too high he's content going super cheap on short commitments and hoping for a little luck. He knows he is making moves that won't harm the future.

[Docwaukee]

44 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Yeah that's why I including the Sanchez tweet even though it had nothing to do with Kinsler. Instead of paying Nova we could take on a good chunk of the Sanchez contract. 

We could then try and dump Escobar for salary purposes and snag a guy like Solarte to play 3rd. Kinsler would replace Escobar in leadoff role 

I did this to myself last year.  We're at $152mil.  I seriously doubt we are going to add any payroll of significance.  Maybe we'll get up to around 160-165 with a couple of smaller moves, but Arte just isn't going to do it.  It's not about the CBT.  It's not because he's still shell shocked from Hamilton.  It's because he's got a budget and he sticks to it.  

People keep talking about how the Angels could use the technique to take on money in a salary dump.  Zero chance.  Arte has Trout.  He's got his 3 million fans and he puts money in his pocket.  

He'd like the team to win.  He doesn't need them to win.  He just has to show that they have a chance to win.  

[m0nkey]

5 years, 70 million, and the #11 pick for desmond?

[nando714]

32 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

I honestly don't think we're being unrealistic with some of our ideas. So we'll find out soon enough if Eppler meant it when he saying they're "intending to contend" or if they're "pretending to content". Thanks to Calzone for the last part there.

"Intending to contend" 

when we have the best baseball player on the planet 

better enjoy him while he's here. 

[Oz27]

7 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

5 years, 70 million, and the #11 pick for desmond?

Absolutely f**kimg crazy.

[Troll Daddy]

11 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

Absolutely f**kimg crazy.

You said the same thing about the Simmons and Nolasco trade.

Sorry, the devil made me say it

 

[Oz27]

Fangraphs' projection system is expecting a -1.1 WAR season from Desmond at 1B in 2017. Oh my.

[Oz27]

2 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

You said the same thing about the Simmons and Nolasco trade.

Sorry, the devil made me say it

 

You seem to enjoy judging pitchers by their win-loss record, but love Nolasco and his 8-14 record. How does that work?

[Troll Daddy]

2 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

You seem to enjoy judging pitchers by their win-loss record, but love Nolasco and his 8-14 record. How does that work?

I prefer Nolasco's records as a Angel

 

[ksangel]

What a WOW for the Rangers...pay Desmond about what the Angels are going to pay Maybin, get a solid season from him, finish in first in the division and have the next draft pick after the Angels and the 28th pick in 2017.  So they stock up their farm system more than the Angels again.

[Oz27]

6 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

I prefer Nolasco's records as a Angel

 

Uhhh, 4-6?

[Troll Daddy]

3 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

He was 4-6. What a shitty pitcher.

Well there it is ... Weaver is a better pitcher 

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

13 hours ago, Richard said:

Way less than the numbers he and boras threw out.

And totprods.....+20M per for Carlos Gomez

[Oz27]

2 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Well there it is ... Weaver is a better pitcher 

We traded a 10-4 pitcher for a 4-8 pitcher, aren't you supposed to hate that?

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

8 hours ago, arch stanton said:

I'm sure there's some advanced metric that says I'm full of shit but I think there's a legit reason the Red Sox have never collected lefty starters in the past.

Maybe, they watched many including Bill Lee get hammered due to the monster (Boston usually had soft tossing lefties or hard throwers who couldn't get it inside on a consistent basis) all changed once Lester learned the cutter... Or, they just enjoyed watching Washburn give up red assed monkey butt there.

[Troll Daddy]

13 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

We traded a 10-4 pitcher for a 4-8 pitcher, aren't you supposed to hate that?

Guessing there was more to the trade ... than you understood. 

So you do value win and losses.

[DMVol]

10 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

We traded a 10-4 pitcher for a 4-8 pitcher, aren't you supposed to hate that?

I sure hated it at the time....but I got it wrong.....hard to believe I was wrong but it's true...

[Chuck]

8 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said: