Official MLB Hot Stove Thread (no Angels rumors or news here)

[TroutField]

Jaime Garcia is heading to the Braves, Cards got three prospects back. One of them was Chris Ellis. That Simmons trade was highway robbery. 

[Billy_Ball]

To be fair Napoli had a better Angel career than Joyce did.  I'm still waiting to see Jeff Mathis become a .250 hitter and Howie Kendrick to win that Batting Title. 

[Troll Daddy]

4 hours ago, Billy_Ball said:

To be fair Napoli had a better Angel career than Joyce did.  I'm still waiting to see Jeff Mathis become a .250 hitter and Howie Kendrick to win that Batting Title. 

Jeff hit .238 last season ... he's on the incline

[Troll Daddy]

Any interest in Brett Lawrie for second?

[Stradling]

Just now, Troll Daddy said:

Any interest in Brett Lawrie for second?

I like his grit.  I have zero idea what his contract looks like.  He passes the eye test defensively, but I don't know what the metrics say.  He never progressed from what he came up as.  That being said he is better than Pennington and he isn't old.  

[Troll Daddy]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I like his grit.  I have zero idea what his contract looks like.  He passes the eye test defensively, but I don't know what the metrics say.  He never progressed from what he came up as.  That being said he is better than Pennington and he isn't old.  

He will likely be non-tendered today.

[totdprods]

Some interest in Lawrie, but not positive he's the best fit for 2B. Marte sort of fills the bench role that Lawrie should be occupying. He'd have some control and versatility though. 

Ben Revere is a non-tender candidate today, and he'd be a perfect 4th OF.

[Docwaukee]

Lawrie is a below avg 2bman and doesn't get on base.  Not really the Eppler type. But he's entering his 27yo season so there could be a bump in his productivity for the next few years.  He's worth considering among the other 2b also ran options.  

Revere would be a nice pickup coming off a weird year where he had a .234 babip.  His fly ball rate was way up and because he has no power, it turned into a bunch of outs.  He's got a really good chance to rebound.  He's an ok defender and has some good speed.  

[totdprods]

Jarrod Dyson is drawing trade interest too. He'd also be a great 4th OF.

[CanadianHalo]

I really wanted Revere a couple years ago before the Jays got him. He'd be perfect to platoon with Maybin and He'd be a nice late inning pinch runner.

Like Doc said he had a down year with his babip as opposed to other seasons. He'd be the perfect buy low candidate.

If we could have Maybin/Revere in the OF I'd like to find a 2B that could provide some pop. So that brings me back to Kinsler...

 

Kinsler

Maybin/Revere

Trout

Pujols

Calhoun

Cron

Escobar

Simmons

Bandy

 

This is about as good as it can get with a owner unwilling to spend much money. Revere won't cost much, add Kinsler's 11 million this season (10 next season w/ 5 million buyout). Spend what's left on pitching.

A lot of options with the lineup. A nice mix of OBP guys and power. 

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

Lawrie is a below avg 2bman and doesn't get on base.  Not really the Eppler type. But he's entering his 27yo season so there could be a bump in his productivity for the next few years.  He's worth considering among the other 2b also ran options.  

Revere would be a nice pickup coming off a weird year where he had a .234 babip.  His fly ball rate was way up and because he has no power, it turned into a bunch of outs.  He's got a really good chance to rebound.  He's an ok defender and has some good speed.  

Too bad Willie Davis isn't still alive to counsel Revere.  He learned to not try to swing for the fences after the 1968 season, and saw his hitting reborn.   

Down side to Revere is his Damonesque arm, which would only play decently in LF.    

[Brent Maguire]

3 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Any interest in Brett Lawrie for second?

Not a big fan of him unless you're picking him up just based on some untapped potential. He was a highly thought of prospect and he's entering his age 27 season next year. But some of the numbers are ugly. Rapidly increasing K rate, doesn't get on base and he hasn't profiled as a good defender at either 2B or 3B. Factor in his alleged clubhouse issues and this is a bit of a tough call. 

That being said, I'd rather take a chance on him than just roll out Pennington and Cowart next year. Like I mentioned above, there's still that hope he finally figures it out and churns out a quality season. 

[Troll Daddy]

33 minutes ago, Angels_Baseball said:

Not a big fan of him unless you're picking him up just based on some untapped potential. He was a highly thought of prospect and he's entering his age 27 season next year. But some of the numbers are ugly. Rapidly increasing K rate, doesn't get on base and he hasn't profiled as a good defender at either 2B or 3B. Factor in his alleged clubhouse issues and this is a bit of a tough call. 

That being said, I'd rather take a chance on him than just roll out Pennington and Cowart next year. Like I mentioned above, there's still that hope he finally figures it out and churns out a quality season. 

I'd prefer him over many of the candidates that have been mentioned. He's never had a season below a .700 OPS (.734 career). He brings some power and intensity to the club ... which is much needed. If he was a LH bat that would be real nice. He also wouldn't cost us a prospect.

[AngelsLakersFan]

34 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

I'd prefer him over many of the candidates that have been mentioned. He's never had a season below a .700 OPS (.734 career). He brings some power and intensity to the club ... which is much needed. If he was a LH bat that would be real nice. He also wouldn't cost us a prospect.

...Did someone hack your account?

This is a reasonable post and even includes some pseudo sabr-stats (OPS).

[Troll Daddy]

3 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

...Did someone hack your account?

This is a reasonable post and even includes some pseudo sabr-stats (OPS).

Lol OPS SLG OBP is about as far as I go 

[Homebrewer]

The Phillies announced that they’ve claimed lefty David Rollins off waivers from the Rangers and designated infielder/outfielder Cody Asche for assignment to clear a spot on the 40-man roster. Asche, formerly one of the Phillies’ top prospects, has struggled in parts of four seasons and was a non-tender candidate prior to tonight’s 8pm ET deadline.

Left handed hitting 26 YO former top prospect?

I post this mostly because of a comment..

32 mins ago

Wild prediction–Angels sign Asche and turn him into Second baseman. He hits well enough for that position.

[Brent Maguire]

1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

I'd prefer him over many of the candidates that have been mentioned. He's never had a season below a .700 OPS (.734 career). He brings some power and intensity to the club ... which is much needed. If he was a LH bat that would be real nice. He also wouldn't cost us a prospect.

I agree. I do wonder if taking a chance on him for a minimal cost(5 mil?) is a smarter route than banking on one of the older free agents or giving up prospects a younger 2B. 

[Troll Daddy]

11 minutes ago, Angels_Baseball said:

I agree. I do wonder if taking a chance on him for a minimal cost(5 mil?) is a smarter route than banking on one of the older free agents or giving up prospects a younger 2B. 

You're not really taking a chance are you? You know what your getting ... I see more upside than downside.

Anyways, it was just a thought ... I prefer Kinsler but at what cost? 

[Troll Daddy]

Nationals acquire Derek Norris

[Chuck]

50 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Nationals acquire Derek Norris

Why the unhappy emoticon? He sucks.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

Revere non-tendered per MLB.com

 

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

Indians non-tender RP - 43.1  3.15 ERA Jeff Manship

[Chuck]

23 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

Indians non-tender RP - 43.1  3.15 ERA Jeff Manship

They had enough men on their ship.

That Manship has sailed. 

[totdprods]

7 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Any interest in Brett Lawrie for second?

Staying with the Sox, settled on a contract.

[Richard]