Official MLB Hot Stove Thread (no Angels rumors or news here)

[Oz27]

9 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Guessing there was more to the trade ... than you understood. 

So you do value win and losses.

You're right, there was a prospect in there too and we know you hate those.

[Docwaukee]

11 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Guessing there was more to the trade ... than you understood. 

So you do value win and losses.

we all value wins and losses....just not in a way that you understand.  

[CanadianHalo]

 

I can't believe someone will give him 80 but good for him if he gets it

[mulwin444]

Why do people still engage an imbecile expecting them not to be an imbecile?   

[mulwin444]

21 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Exactly...

[Troll Daddy]

40 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

we all value wins and losses....just not in a way that you understand.  

I don't put a lot of stock into wins and losses ... but I do believe there's value in winning. Any major league pitcher will agree with me. 

 

[Richard]

 

[Homebrewer]

3 minutes ago, Richard said:

 

Soler should do well in the DH league. Since he's only serviceable-adequate in the field he probably belongs there anyhow.  

[Docwaukee]

Just now, Troll Daddy said:

I don't put a lot of stock into wins and losses ... but I do believe there's value in winning. Any major league pitcher will agree with me. 

 

wins and losses are a team stat.  

major league pitchers don't build teams.  

any sort of 'value' assigned to pitcher wins can be parsed out more appropriately with a little research.  It's pretty easy to see what's noise and what constitutes value that you can attribute to the individual player these days.  

[totdprods]

9 minutes ago, Richard said:

 

Good move for both teams. Cubs didn't need to overpay to (likely) replace Chapman. Soler was essentially expendable for them. 
Soler is raw but if he reaches his ceiling he is exactly what the Royals have been seeking for a long, long time. He reminds me of Jermaine Dye.

[Billy_Ball]

Adequate in OF, lol.

 

[ukyah]

1 hour ago, ksangel said:

What a WOW for the Rangers...pay Desmond about what the Angels are going to pay Maybin, get a solid season from him, finish in first in the division and have the next draft pick after the Angels and the 28th pick in 2017.  So they stock up their farm system more than the Angels again.

 

just for clarification because somebody else alluded to the same misunderstanding. the rangers don't get the 11th pick. it's just gone, but they do get a compensation pick between the 1st and 2nd round.

[ukyah]

32 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

I don't put a lot of stock into wins and losses ... but I do believe there's value in winning. Any major league pitcher will agree with me. 

 

you think so?

maybe in a year where the team is giving them lots of W's for their pitching efforts. talk to them in the seasons where their pitching is the same, but the team can't find a win for them.

it's happened a billion times over. how many times have you seen a pitcher on a team have a 3+ era and he still loses 15+ games? 

[AngelsLakersFan]

4 hours ago, JAHV76 said:

Rangers sign their CF and get a first round pick for Desmond signing with the Rockies.

 

What a stupid move

[Docwaukee]

the most exciting thing we have done at the winter meetings so far is to NOT sign Brett Oberholtzer.  

[Tank]

2 hours ago, Billy_Ball said:

Adequate in OF, lol.

 

that's because he's really a third baseman, and you all know it.

[Tank]

16 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

the most exciting thing we have done at the winter meetings so far is to NOT sign Brett Oberholtzer.  

well, there's an argument to be made for not doing stupid things.

[beatlesrule]

The Nationals and White Sox have agreed to a trade that will send outfielder Adam Eaton from Chicago to D.C., reports Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports. Right-hander Lucas Giolito is going to Chicago, as are other pieces.  Dan Hayes of CSN Chicago reports that right-handers Reynaldo Lopez and Dane Dunning are also in the deal.

[southpaw]

Just now, beatlesrule said:

The Nationals and White Sox have agreed to a trade that will send outfielder Adam Eaton from Chicago to D.C., reports Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports. Right-hander Lucas Giolito is going to Chicago, as are other pieces.  Dan Hayes of CSN Chicago reports that right-handers Reynaldo Lopez and Dane Dunning are also in the deal.

Wow what a HUGE overpay for the Nats. 

[Angelsfan1984]

9 minutes ago, southpaw said:

Wow what a HUGE overpay for the Nats. 

Insane overpay.

[Oz27]

White Sox have killed it in the past 48 hours. They need to keep it going and sell Quintana and Frazier now.

I can't believe the Nationals were willing to pay that much. Absolutely crazy.

[Docwaukee]

Calhoun's value just went way up.  

[Docwaukee]

btw, that's why you could never get appropriate prospect value for Trout.  

Trout's average WAR over the last 3 years is almost double that of Eaton.  Plus Trout is almost 3 years younger.  The only difference is the salary and one less year of control.  

[m0nkey]

Jesus christ.  What a job by the white sox the last day +

[CanadianHalo]

4 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

Calhoun's value just went way up.  

I'd be all for trading Calhoun if we could get a nice little haul like that!

Im thinking the Nats felt pressured into making some sort of move after whiffing on those others