Move into new stadium? Renovate the old one? Angels could just play out their lease in Anaheim

[Dollar Bill]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/la-sp-angels-anaheim-stadium-20160927-snap-story.html

[ScottT]

Worst case realistic scenario.  Awesome. 

[Oz27]

Hopefully the team can resolve whatever issues it has with the new development and get on board with it. It should be mutually beneficial and add to the experience for a fans in a way which is badly lacking at the moment. If there is a benefit for both parties, surely there is a way to work together.

[ABC]

f the stadium

fix the team

[kevinb]

Funny how the team is arguing how the project can affect fan experience. You mean more shops dining and entertainment options could negatively affect "fan" experience please tell me more Angels

[Jobu]

7 hours ago, Dollar Bill said:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/la-sp-angels-anaheim-stadium-20160927-snap-story.html

Bill, you had previously mentioned that there is language in the lease about the responsibility for the infrastructure costs, but that the city and team disagree on the interpretation. If the Angels do choose option 3, how likely is it that this issue ends in litigation? 

[Dollar Bill]

Too soon to say. That would be a new and different negotiation.

[red321]

I'm thinking it's too soon to say...would probably be a different negotiation...

[Tank]

red, you have to say it in triplicate or else some here may not notice.

[Inside Pitch]

11 minutes ago, red321 said:

I'm thinking it's too soon to say...would probably be a different negotiation...

I agree.

[red321]

3 minutes ago, Tank said:

red, you have to say it in triplicate or else some here may not notice.

Are we still having the duplicate post issue?

[Tank]

i have no qualms about the fan experience at the stadium, other than the often crappy home team with a bunch of no-name players that i have to watch. adding more dining options is never a bad thing, but it's not what draws me to the ballpark.

i like the stadium and i like how the stadium looks. won't complain if they want to add some new architectural elements. my concern is that a lot of the enhancements teams want to do often are targeted for fans with money. that ends up excluding a lot of folks. 

[HaloCory22]

Make Angel Stadium great again.

[well_red]

17 minutes ago, Tank said:

i have no qualms about the fan experience at the stadium, other than the often crappy home team with a bunch of no-name players that i have to watch. adding more dining options is never a bad thing, but it's not what draws me to the ballpark.

i like the stadium and i like how the stadium looks. won't complain if they want to add some new architectural elements. my concern is that a lot of the enhancements teams want to do often are targeted for fans with money. that ends up excluding a lot of folks. 

the only enhancements i'd like to see are (1) removing the god-awful 90s-backyard-pool rock "sculpture" and (2) integrate the big A back into the stadium outfield somehow.  Love those old photos of the big A in the 60's!

[mrwicked]

i hope they do something - the area around the stadium sucks compared to other ballparks.

but man if the angels aren't the ones to develop, and LT does, they who funds the bill for the ballpark improvements?

now you're left with a fun, exiting area surrounding a crappy old stadium.

[Second Base]

Angel Stadium

was a great experience, until I went to Padres games and against games. Made me realize just how much this stadium needs an upgrade. Sewage is a big problem. Infrastructure is as basic as it gets. This would be understandable if the team was really good or our owner was in serious debt and couldn't afford improvements or rebuilding.

But Arte makes a ton of money off this team and has zero debt. It's greed. He wants a new park or a rebuilt one, and he wants someone else to pay for it so he can profit from it.

Sounds to me like the Angels will be in the same stadium, which will remain in the same condition, and the same lack of community flair, for another 14 years until either they renovate, relocate or rebuild. 

Then again, 14 years from now, Moreno may not even be alive for all we know, and he may end up selling the team. The buyer might have a better relationship with Anaheim.

[Jobu]

To be fair to Arte, he's not expecting anything that other sports owners don't get all the time. He's just doing it in the wrong place at the wrong time, and ends up coming across tone deaf. 

[yk9001]

Arte wants someone else to pay for it.  Its the Republican way.

[yk9001]

To be fair to Goebbels, he wasn't doing anything that Eichmann, Himmler and the other Nazis weren't doing.

[Jobu]

Godwin's Law on the first page!!! 

[yk9001]

lol

I tried and tried but just could not resist.

[Jobu]

It's absolutely greed. I was just trying to say it is not without precedent that it is rewarded.

[ScottT]

I care about the stadium itself more than the area surrounding it.  It seems the neighborhood is going to change no matter what... so the biggest plus now (easy access)  will be gone in the coming years.   I cringe at the thought of area being built up and them slapping some pain on the old building.  

Arte is loaded. 

[katrinab]

the only thing i care about are better bathrooms and better food options

other than that i dont really care what goes on around the stadium