Lince-done

[Jeff Williams]

He rushed back too soon.  He needs more time to himself to re-strengthen and get back into gear.  I'd imagine down the line it may happen for someone else, unfortunate for the Angels in that regard like Ryan Madsen, it's just the way the chips fall. 

We could see Nate Smith now.  He's ERA climbed over the last 3, 4.40 to 4.67, but that might be from just going through the motions before his inevitable call up, too, possibly. 

 

[Pujols4MVP]

but his BABIP is .432 Lincecum's just getting unlucky !!!!!  *sarcasm on*

[Stradling]

41 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

Effect.

How about figuratively? 

Shit, I even asked myself if I was using the right one.  

[stormngt]

5 hours ago, eaterfan said:

Can we stop with the overreaction? Yes, he stinks but any available pitcher willing to sign with the Angels was going to blow chunks. 

What the Angels saw was a guy who had been successful in MLB before and a hole in the rotation. They hoped his arm strength might return and they'd get a bargain. But a team in last place wasn't finding Kershaw out there mid way through the season.

Good points.  The Lincecum signee was a necessary gamble.  It didn't pan out.  Time to dump him and move forward.

[Oz27]

6 hours ago, eaterfan said:

Can we stop with the overreaction? Yes, he stinks but any available pitcher willing to sign with the Angels was going to blow chunks. 

What the Angels saw was a guy who had been successful in MLB before and a hole in the rotation. They hoped his arm strength might return and they'd get a bargain. But a team in last place wasn't finding Kershaw out there mid way through the season.

There's a difference between not finding a Kershaw and finding the guy who was going to put up the worst pitching season of all time. Baseball has been played for a long time and he could seriously have been the worst ever ... and if he's not, it's close.

[eaterfan]

4 minutes ago, Oz27 said:

There's a difference between not finding a Kershaw and finding the guy who was going to put up the worst pitching season of all time. Baseball has been played for a long time and he could seriously have been the worst ever ... and if he's not, it's close.

Yeah. That's fine but unless the guy pitched like Kershaw it wouldn't have mattered. Even then it probably wouldn't have. Lincecum had a Cy Young ceiling and there aren't a lot of those guys available in mid May. Even fewer who would want to sign with a last place team. He was either going to boom or bust. He obviously busted and has been terrible but what were people expecting? 

[disarcina]

As mentioned in today's LA Times -- this 'comeback' effort by Lincecum has fallen short but has shown him and all that he probably needs to develop a new pitch -- it was mentioned that if anyone could become a knuckleball pitcher, it's Lincecum.

Remember Charlie Hough with the Dodgers? Was a starter and never able to really make it as a starter, wound up being sent out and shortly came up with a knuckleball -- he eneded up being one of the top knuckleball pitchers (not the best, like Niekro but up there) of his ear........not sure if he ran across Phil Niekro or maybe even Hoyt Whilhelm -- who pitched for about five years (or more) for the Dodgers towards the end of Wilhelm's long career -- but Hough became a knuckleballer and had a pretty good MLB career after being declared  'finished'

Perhaps Lincecum can do something like that......

Also -- remember Scott Kazmir -- comes to Angels, signs lucrative extension contract, flops badly (and the Angels gave him every chance , multiple chances -- towards the end he was being put in game for mop up role and couldn't get guys out in that role !!.

Then about a year plus later, Kazmir is back, pitching in the Oakland then the Dodgers rotation and being effective........so Lincecum done?  Don't count him out -- his starts with the Angels over been overall terrible though -- almost Joe Blanton like -- another guy who somehow found his way back from being 'MLB's worst pitcher' to be in the Dodgers rotation this year and now playing what seems to be an ever expanding/ important pen role for them..........as Dizzy Dean used to say on the national telecasts "who woulda thunk it?"

[ELEVEN]

6 minutes ago, disarcina said:

As mentioned in today's LA Times -- this 'comeback' effort by Lincecum has fallen short but has shown him and all that he probably needs to develop a new pitch -- it was mentioned that if anyone could become a knuckleball pitcher, it's Lincecum.

Remember Charlie Hough with the Dodgers? Was a starter and never able to really make it as a starter, wound up being sent out and shortly came up with a knuckleball -- he eneded up being one of the top knuckleball pitchers (not the best, like Niekro but up there) of his ear........not sure if he ran across Phil Niekro or maybe even Hoyt Whilhelm -- who pitched for about five years (or more) for the Dodgers towards the end of Wilhelm's long career -- but Hough became a knuckleballer and had a pretty good MLB career after being declared  'finished'

Perhaps Lincecum can do something like that......

Also -- remember Scott Kazmir -- comes to Angels, signs lucrative extension contract, flops badly (and the Angels gave him every chance , multiple chances -- towards the end he was being put in game for mop up role and couldn't get guys out in that role !!.

Then about a year plus later, Kazmir is back, pitching in the Oakland then the Dodgers rotation and being effective........so Lincecum done?  Don't count him out -- his starts with the Angels over been overall terrible though -- almost Joe Blanton like -- another guy who somehow found his way back from being 'MLB's worst pitcher' to be in the Dodgers rotation this year and now playing what seems to be an ever expanding/ important pen role for them..........as Dizzy Dean used to say on the national telecasts "who woulda thunk it?"

Cool. So go work on your knuckler and come back when you're 40.

[John Smith]

 

 

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Angels have DFA'd Tim Lincecum.

 

[tdawg87]

Someone wake Timmy up from his weed nap.

[nando714]

I wonder who bought his jersey lol

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, eaterfan said:

Yeah. That's fine but unless the guy pitched like Kershaw it wouldn't have mattered. Even then it probably wouldn't have. Lincecum had a Cy Young ceiling and there aren't a lot of those guys available in mid May. Even fewer who would want to sign with a last place team. He was either going to boom or bust. He obviously busted and has been terrible but what were people expecting? 

they had to make a move for the sake of making a move.  It really was about a warm body.  Someone to bring in that showed the fans they weren't quitting in May.  Everyone in the org knew it's wasn't going to save the season.  I doubt people thought it would be this bad, but I am sure they felt he'd go out there every 5 days and be kinda meh as opposed to having one of the worst stretches for a SP in the history of baseball.    

[John Smith]

Alden Gonzalez ‏@Alden_Gonzalez

Angels seemingly under the impression Lincecum will accept an outright to Triple-A once he clears. RP Jose Alvarez takes his roster spot.

[Docwaukee]

I wonder who they're gonna tab to be our 5th starter.  Maybe stretch out Alvarez?  

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

I wonder who they're gonna tab to be our 5th starter.  Maybe stretch out Alvarez?  

Chacin

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, Ace_Shoemaker said:

Chacin

Barf

[John Smith]

14 minutes ago, John Smith said:

Alden Gonzalez ‏@Alden_Gonzalez

Angels seemingly under the impression Lincecum will accept an outright to Triple-A once he clears. RP Jose Alvarez takes his roster spot.

Should be RP Jose Valdez takes his roster spot.

[Angels#1Fan]

This move had to be done, it probably should have happened after his last start.

You can't keep running a guy out there that gives up multiple runs in the first and second inning or gives back a lead all the time because it will eventually have an adverse affect on the team when he pitches.

I wouldn't mind seeing Lincecum go down to the minors to try and work out his problems. Maybe he'll find something down there and maybe not. One thing is for sure, the major leagues is not the place for that.

As to who will take his place in the rotation..beats me..maybe Chacin?

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, disarcina said:

As mentioned in today's LA Times -- this 'comeback' effort by Lincecum has fallen short but has shown him and all that he probably needs to develop a new pitch -- it was mentioned that if anyone could become a knuckleball pitcher, it's Lincecum.

Remember Charlie Hough with the Dodgers? Was a starter and never able to really make it as a starter, wound up being sent out and shortly came up with a knuckleball -- he eneded up being one of the top knuckleball pitchers (not the best, like Niekro but up there) of his ear........not sure if he ran across Phil Niekro or maybe even Hoyt Whilhelm -- who pitched for about five years (or more) for the Dodgers towards the end of Wilhelm's long career -- but Hough became a knuckleballer and had a pretty good MLB career after being declared  'finished'

Perhaps Lincecum can do something like that......

Also -- remember Scott Kazmir -- comes to Angels, signs lucrative extension contract, flops badly (and the Angels gave him every chance , multiple chances -- towards the end he was being put in game for mop up role and couldn't get guys out in that role !!.

Then about a year plus later, Kazmir is back, pitching in the Oakland then the Dodgers rotation and being effective........so Lincecum done?  Don't count him out -- his starts with the Angels over been overall terrible though -- almost Joe Blanton like -- another guy who somehow found his way back from being 'MLB's worst pitcher' to be in the Dodgers rotation this year and now playing what seems to be an ever expanding/ important pen role for them..........as Dizzy Dean used to say on the national telecasts "who woulda thunk it?"

This doesn't negate the main point to your thread but does gives some factual corrections.

 

Kazmir did not get an extension with the Angels.  Kaz was a good dump by the Ray's, but I don't think we gave too much up for him.  Also I think he was out for more than a couple of years before his comeback.

[ten ocho recon scout]

5 hours ago, ELEVEN said:

Then we needed Preparation H and L.

Lol! Somehow i knew prep H would come out of that as soon as i hit submit

 

And you are correct sir

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 hour ago, stormngt said:

This doesn't negate the main point to your thread but does gives some factual corrections.

 

Kazmir did not get an extension with the Angels.  Kaz was a good dump by the Ray's, but I don't think we gave too much up for him.  Also I think he was out for more than a couple of years before his comeback.

Sean Rodriguez

[Vegas Halo Fan]

5 hours ago, disarcina said:

Remember Charlie Hough with the Dodgers? Was a starter and never able to really make it as a starter, wound up being sent out and shortly came up with a knuckleball -- he eneded up being one of the top knuckleball pitchers (not the best, like Niekro but up there) of his ear........not sure if he ran across Phil Niekro or maybe even Hoyt Whilhelm -- who pitched for about five years (or more) for the Dodgers towards the end of Wilhelm's long career -- but Hough became a knuckleballer and had a pretty good MLB career after being declared  'finished'

Tim Wakefield was a failed infielder who was about to be pushed out of the game when he developed a knuckleball, and he had a long career as a starting pitcher.

[Blarg]

Because he knew he ran the team and farm system into the ground.

[Stradling]

32 minutes ago, shine said:

Only the Galactically Stupid such as you're self would think so. Why did Jerry walk away ?

Jerry walked away for a few reasons.  Once again bring more to the table than being the single faceted hater. 

[Mark68]

2 hours ago, shine said:

Only the Galactically Stupid such as you're self would think so. Why did Jerry walk away ?

I don't know if someone who types "such as you're self" should be calling others galactically stupid. It makes you look universally stupid.