Joe Maddon

[Slegnaac]

Last night in an extra innings game he had two relief pitchers on the field at the same time, one in left field and the other on the mound.  He rotated the two based on the left / right match-ups.  Cubs won it in the 15th inning. 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

"Now batting, left fielder, Albert Pujols."

[Homebrewer]

Joe was a busy boy last night..

(From Cubs game notes MLB.com)

OK THEN: 22 Chicago Cubs players last night contributed to a wild win in Cincinnati that featured nine hits from hitters, eight pitchers pitching, seven runs a-scoring, six left fielders fielding, five 15th-inning runs a-crossing, four non-sequential outs from a pitcher who closed the game after entering as an outfielder, three hurlers outfielding, two slick inning-ending double plays and a Grand Slam to cap it all off.

[MacNasty]

Yeah man.  Joe Maddon is why we won that championship.  He was what made that staff special, not the man running it.  For years I was all over the fat guy's nuts, but not any more.

It's time to go get a great young manager who can bring energy to this team and make the staff around him better. Hopefully we have a GM who can restack it right.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Sosh would have gone to all of that trouble, then brought in Fernando Salas to blow it at the end.

[Homebrewer]

3 minutes ago, MacNasty said:

Yeah man.  Joe Maddon is why we won that championship.  He was what made that staff special, not the man running it.  For years I was all over the fat guy's nuts, but not any more.

It's time to go get a great young manager who can bring energy to this team and make the staff around him better. Hopefully we have a GM who can restack it right.

Nah man...it was Mickey Hatcher.

[Troll Daddy]

Joe can thanks his lucky stars that he had Mike as a mentor.

He'd be the first to say so.

[ukyah]

1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

Joe can thanks his lucky stars that he had Mike as a mentor.

He'd be the first to say so.

 

this is actually true.

[nate]

Love his creativity.  Has anyone ever done that before with relievers?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

5 hours ago, Homebrewer said:

Nah man...it was Mickey Hatcher.

Championships are a false stat.

[ukyah]

let's not all suck maddon's dick at once. he did what he did, because they had no one left and he had to get creative to finish the game. this isn't batting the pitcher 8th type stuff here.

[nate]

I would assume that he had this contingency in his head when he blew through the last position players. 

[Blarg]

If putting relievers in the outfield is a plan then you are not a good planner. This was simply a desperation move when all of his other genius moves didn't work out. 

[Stradling]

I like Joe Maddon, but to pretend he is all that different than Scioscia is laughable.  

[Stradling]

What is the difference, besides Maddon has a more talented squad?  

 

[Homebrewer]

13 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I like Joe Maddon, but to pretend he is all that different than Scioscia is laughable.  

To think they are anywhere close to similar, in any way, is way more laughable.

[Stradling]

One of the biggest complaints about Scioscia is line up construction, how many times have you said or read, "why the hell is Albert batting 3rd or 4th?"  Well I think we would all agree that Heyward has been a huge disappointment this season.  Well the genius Maddon has batted him 2nd all season long.  He has batted 2nd in 90% of thier games this season.  Sound familiar?  

[Stradling]

Just now, Homebrewer said:

To think they are anywhere close to similar, in any way, is way more laughable.

I completely disagree.  You would know a little more about the Cubs than I know because you watch them daily.  That being said, you would also be much less likely to compare the two because you don't like Scioscia.  

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, shine said:

The Cubs would have at least 10 less wins.with Scioscia.. The Cubs would have been 10 games under .500 in April.

Oh ok, so then you are just that guy. 

[Homebrewer]

Heyward has  struggled for a few months...albert has struggles for what, 5 YEARS??

If that's the best you can come up with, I'm done.

Oh and Tampa Bay - Chicago Cubs were not exactly dream jobs (until last year) but they got better with Joe at the helm. The Cubs brought in Joe because of his ability to relate, and patience with, young players and his creative nature. I've never heard anyone say anything about Scioscia that is complimentary in either of those areas.

Why you get so butt-hurt when anyone mentions Joe Maddon is a question you might want to ask yourself.

[Stradling]

The Cubs also have talent to replace Heyward in the 2 hole.  The Angels don't have the talent to replace Albert in the clean up spot. 

If you think that the talent the Cubs had and were acquiring didn't make it a dream job you are delusional.  The entire organization changed with Theo got there. 

It was also just a matter of time for Tampa to put it together with all of their very early picks.  I do agree that Maddon was a huge part of it.  But I also think Scioscia is a huge part of the success the Angels have had the last 15 years. 

I will agree that Maddon has more patience with younger players. 

As far as why I get butt hurt about Maddon, it isn't about Maddon at all.  I just think its ridiculous that we have guys on here that think everything with the Angels is bad and everything everywhere else is better.  Hell we have people on here that think Dipoto walks on water, when in reality the guy did a shitty job in a lot of areas.  I honestly think the only person we universally agree on is Hatcher. 

[Tank]

The real question is what would Maddon be able to do with the talent we currently have on this team? The answer that there is absolutely no way to measure something like that.

[Homebrewer]

Hell we have people on here that think Dipoto walks on water, when in reality the guy did a shitty job in a lot of areas.  I honestly think the only person we universally agree on is Hatcher. 

 

Dipoto? Really? JD was not the problem with this organization or the reason for it's dysfunction.

JD was merely a symptom of the disease that it's infected with..

Dipoto did what he could in a very short time with a meddling owner an egocentric manager. His situation was untenable and he walked out mid season because he couldn't do what he wanted to do in the FO and he couldn't communicate with the field manager who had no respect for him.

Did a shitty job you say? He didn't even get a chance to do ANY job. Much of that fact is on your hero Mike Scioscia and his protector and benefactor (and nutsack carrier)  Arte Moreno.

[MacNasty]

26 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I completely disagree.  You would know a little more about the Cubs than I know because you watch them daily.  That being said, you would also be much less likely to compare the two because you don't like Scioscia.  

His body of work in a difficult situation in Tampa pretty much speaks for itself.

[Docwaukee]

9 minutes ago, Tank said:

The real question is what would Maddon be able to do with the talent we currently have on this team? The answer that there is absolutely no way to measure something like that.

similar to what he did when his tampa teams lacked talent.