Can this trend be reversed? SJWs

[Spirit]

[Taylor]

It could also be that the planting the flag scene is so iconic, that he didn't want to recreate it. Everyone has seen that image before, but most of us don't know the details of how the moon landing was accomplished.

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, RallyMo said:

Right. That doesn't mean it's a political statement.

Last summer I visited my father in Montana, he is in failing health and is slipping into Alzheimer's. He can hardly walk but made the trip up a flight of stairs to talk to me in his study where I was staying. He pointed with his cane to the varied plaques with commendations related to his work at North American Rockwell. His favorite is the one recognizing his involvement with the guidance system on the Lunar Module dated in 1969.

My father grew up dirt poor in Butte, Montana, the son of an imigrant during the depression. He lost his mother at a young age, was put in an orphanage for two years because the mines were only hiring men two weeks on and two weeks off, my grandfather couldn't afford to raise his own son and feed him.

He went to public schools, played high school football on a rock hard playing field with no grass nicknamed the granite bowl in Boulder, Montana. He took on many different jobs from body fender man, short order cook,worked the wheat harvest and drove a wrecker. He worked his way through school, took a break when he got married and joined the Air Force during the Korean war. Returned and completed an engineering degree at the University of Montana. Moved the family to California and got into aerospace. 

On the day the LEM touched down our family was watching it in the living room of my grandfather's home in Montana. When Aldrin stepped on the moon my grandfather looked over to my father and said, "Good job, John." He knew that was enough said. 

If you don't think leaving out the planting of the American flag on the moon was politically motivated you obviously were not alive at the time it took place. Fuck these jackasses. 

[RallyMo]

39 minutes ago, Geoff said:

It's true. If the director says it wasn't a political statement, it probably isn't. If you're making a statement, you say you're making a statement. 

[Spirit]

I'm sure Buzz really didn't mean it.

 

 

[Tank]

i'm following the apollo 11 page on facebook and this showed up today, fwiw.

Regarding the film “First Man”

A statement from Rick and Mark Armstrong and James Hansen.

As far as I’m concerned this puts this to rest. 

Below is the full note, attributed to Neil Armstrong's sons, Rick and Mark, and First Man author James R. Hanson: 

“We’ve read a number of comments about the film today and specifically about the absence of the flag planting scene, made largely by people who haven’t seen the movie. As we’ve seen it multiple times, we thought maybe we should weigh in.

This is a film that focuses on what you don’t know about Neil Armstrong. It’s a film that focuses on things you didn’t see or may not remember about Neil’s journey to the moon. The filmmakers spent years doing extensive research to get at the man behind the myth, to get at the story behind the story. It’s a movie that gives you unique insight into the Armstrong family and fallen American Heroes like Elliot See and Ed White. It’s a very personal movie about our dad’s journey, seen through his eyes.

This story is human and it is universal. Of course, it celebrates an America achievement. It also celebrates an achievement “for all mankind,” as it says on the plaque Neil and Buzz left on the moon. It is a story about an ordinary man who makes profound sacrifices and suffers through intense loss in order to achieve the impossible.

Although Neil didn’t see himself that way, he was an American hero. He was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man who suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows.

In short, we do not feel this movie is anti-American in the slightest. Quite the opposite. But don’t take our word for it. We’d encourage everyone to go see this remarkable film and see for themselves.”

[Jason]

Can we get @Vladdylonglegs in here to explain more about the moon landing? 

[Taylor]

5 hours ago, Tank said:

This is a film that focuses on what you don’t know about Neil Armstrong. It’s a film that focuses on things you didn’t see or may not remember about Neil’s journey to the moon. The filmmakers spent years doing extensive research to get at the man behind the myth, to get at the story behind the story. It’s a movie that gives you unique insight into the Armstrong family and fallen American Heroes like Elliot See and Ed White. It’s a very personal movie about our dad’s journey, seen through his eyes.

Hmm...that sounds familiar.

 

Oh yeah.

 

[tdawg87]

4 hours ago, calscuf said:

Maybe you old white fags can weigh in? 

Is this another fat joke?

[Lou]

On August 27, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Blarg said:

I think it is more of a public high school AP coursework not middle school. 

I agree

[RallyMo]

21 hours ago, Blarg said:

Last summer I visited my father in Montana, he is in failing health and is slipping into Alzheimer's. He can hardly walk but made the trip up a flight of stairs to talk to me in his study where I was staying. He pointed with his cane to the varied plaques with commendations related to his work at North American Rockwell. His favorite is the one recognizing his involvement with the guidance system on the Lunar Module dated in 1969.

My father grew up dirt poor in Butte, Montana, the son of an imigrant during the depression. He lost his mother at a young age, was put in an orphanage for two years because the mines were only hiring men two weeks on and two weeks off, my grandfather couldn't afford to raise his own son and feed him.

He went to public schools, played high school football on a rock hard playing field with no grass nicknamed the granite bowl in Boulder, Montana. He took on many different jobs from body fender man, short order cook,worked the wheat harvest and drove a wrecker. He worked his way through school, took a break when he got married and joined the Air Force during the Korean war. Returned and completed an engineering degree at the University of Montana. Moved the family to California and got into aerospace. 

On the day the LEM touched down our family was watching it in the living room of my grandfather's home in Montana. When Aldrin stepped on the moon my grandfather looked over to my father and said, "Good job, John." He knew that was enough said. 

If you don't think leaving out the planting of the American flag on the moon was politically motivated you obviously were not alive at the time it took place. Fuck these jackasses. 

That's a great post and a truly awesome set of events. I really mean that.

That doesn't change the fact that I think you're wrong. It doesn't have to be a political statement.

[RallyMo]

14 hours ago, Geoff said:

I'm sure Buzz really didn't mean it.

 

 

That's great.

Down the road, I'll have one of your coworkers weigh in on his proudest personal moment when I'm making the film adaptation of your official biography. After I consult with your family and make my creative decisions, I'll likely side with Jimmy Chitwood (I've assigned this name to your coworker) and include scenes from his best basketball season at Hickory High. As a consequence, I'll be leaving a truly thrilling scene of you creating a Trump thread while trapped in a Colorado hotel on the cutting room floor. Yes, it's one of your formative moments, but in addition to talkinng to me, Jimmy Chitwood made a tweet about that championship run. That must mean that it's integral to the telling of your story.

...and before you ask: this is not politically motivated.

[Blarg]

2 hours ago, RallyMo said:

That's a great post and a truly awesome set of events. I really mean that.

That doesn't change the fact that I think you're wrong. It doesn't have to be a political statement.

It is. Really obtuse thinking that pulling that moment from time out wasn't motivated by the current political climate. It's not even subtle since there was so much thought put into whether to plant the UN flag or the stars and stripes. The concensus was this was an American achievement and should so be recognized. Now nearly 50 years later the climate of Hollywood is to push back at everything Nationalistic even if it the very best of what we represent. 

Again, fuck these assholes. 

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

It is. Really obtuse thinking that pulling that moment from time out wasn't motivated by the current political climate. It's not even subtle since there was so much thought put into whether to plant the UN flag or the stars and stripes. The concensus was this was an American achievement and should so be recognized. Now nearly 50 years later the climate of Hollywood is to push back at everything Nationalistic even if it the very best of what we represent. 

Again, fuck these assholes. 

Nah.

[Tank]

11 hours ago, Taylor said:

Hmm...that sounds familiar.

 

Oh yeah.

 

I Craig'd you? Sweet!

[Blarg]

35 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

Nah.

I guess it's not important since over 600 million people watched it live. And yet, none of your generation saw it. And won't because... Any good reasons come to mind? 

[Spirit]

By the way, movies are art.  And the artist who make it are free to make whatever political statements they want.  They're just exercising their first amendment rights. 

 

 

[Jason]

1 hour ago, BackUpTheTruck said:

They are entitled to their stupid opinion. The fact is more people come into this country than people leave. It has been that way long before the country was even founded, for a reason, and it's not because people wanted free stuff from the government.

Only the left dishonors, and sometimes even burns the American flag. If they don't know what the American flag represents, especially in the context of the moon landing, that does not speak well to their character.

Hollywood and character? Lol

[RallyMo]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

I guess it's not important since over 600 million people watched it live. And yet, none of your generation saw it. And won't because... Any good reasons come to mind? 

What in the ever-loving hell are you talking about? I've seen the footage.

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, BackUpTheTruck said:

They are entitled to their stupid opinion. The fact is more people come into this country than people leave. It has been that way long before the country was even founded, for a reason, and it's not because people wanted free stuff from the government.

Only the left dishonors, and sometimes even burns the American flag. If they don't know what the American flag represents, especially in the context of the moon landing, that does not speak well to their character.

Yep. I can't believe that they reportedly (and completely) omitted the flag and all mentions of the United States from this film. It's unbelievable.

[Blarg]

14 hours ago, RallyMo said:

What in the ever-loving hell are you talking about? I've seen the footage.

It obviously had no hold on you, no significant value since it was a replay a decade or more later. We lived through different moments in time, I guess there is no going back. 

[Jason]

[Taylor]

23 hours ago, Tank said:

I Craig'd you? Sweet!

No, I basically guessed the correct reason the flag scene was included.

[Tank]

50 minutes ago, Taylor said:

No, I basically guessed the correct reason the flag scene was included.

hey, don't rob me of my moment.

[Make Angels Great Again]

21 hours ago, Vladdylonglegs said:

 I haven't a ton of serious research on all that but on the surface it has lie written all over it. How is it that in the freaking 1960s they sent men to the moon AND BACK when they still have trouble sending supplies to the ISS? The whole narrative is completely laughable.

 

But does the ISS actually even exist?