Bernie's free college idea

[Adam]

It is in the interest of profitable companies to make sure the people who help make them profitable are happy so they will continue to help make them profitable.

[Stradling]

It is in the interest of profitable companies to make sure the people who help make them profitable are happy so they will continue to help make them profitable.

This sounds familiar.

[nate]

I can't read it over the fact that you still haven't opened an In N Out in SE Wisconsin.

[Stradling]

If you get the demographics right we will consider it.

[Adam]

More tan people

[nate]

If you get the demographics right we will consider it.

 

white people dont buy INO?

[Stradling]

Ok how bout population density

[arch stanton]

I've been to Wisconsin. Most of the population there is pretty dense.

[nate]

1 million people live in Milwaukee county alone.

[Jay]

In n out mwon't be happy unless the wait for a $3 hamburger is at least 20 minutes.

[nate]

I am just going to leave this here...

 

[Stradling]

Ok Nate I lied, we hate Wisconsin. We like good weather and stuff.

[nate]

I feel so betrayed.

[Tank]

Milwaukeee's near Alabama, right?

[Stradling]

Milwaukeee's near Alabama, right?

Northern Alabama

[Angelsjunky]

Why do you believe "a lot of the time"?

 

In reality, a very low percentage of the time that is the case. Yeah, the Waltons F over many employees. But most business owners don't, from the mom&pop shop to larger corps. I've dealt with many businesses via consulting and I've worked at different types of companies at all levels. I have seen their practices and personally understand what it is like to have employees that need to get a check without it bouncing. 

 

The simple answer is because, as Bernie says, the vast majority of wealth continues to go to the wealthy - wealthy that isn't just made by these masterful financial savants, but on the hard work of working people. The rich get richer, as the saying goes, while the poor and middle class either get poorer or stay the same. But it isn't just a matter of outright or obvious exploitation - it is a matter of how the system works.

 

Bernie's base: the naive, uneducated, and underemployed.  You can't expect those people to have the same perspective as someone who has done relatively well.

 

Naive? Maybe - that depends upon your perspective. Uneducated? Certainly not. It is well known that the more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote Democrat - especially if you post-graduate degrees. I can't find info on Bernie vs. Hillary, but I haven't seen anything to make me believe that there's a clear split. Underemployed? Maybe, but I think that's especially true of the Millenials who are graduating with a ton of debt but limited prospects. So can you blame them for voting for Bernie?

[AngelsLongBall]

The simple answer is because, as Bernie says, the vast majority of wealth continues to go to the wealthy - wealthy that isn't just made by these masterful financial savants, but on the hard work of working people. The rich get richer, as the saying goes, while the poor and middle class either get poorer or stay the same. But it isn't just a matter of outright or obvious exploitation - it is a matter of how the system works.

Risk and reward. A small business owner risks financial ruin if the business goes south, economy shits the bed, some accounts don't pay, etc. An employee, for the most part, loses a job. So while I know many small businesses participate in profit sharing of some kind, I do think those with the greatest risk should reap the greatest rewards

[Crampknees]

AJ, when Jay starts off a comment like that you are spinning your wheels explaining yourself.  It is not an experienced or educated thought process and comes straight from a segment of The Five. 

[ABC]

The simple answer is because, as Bernie says, the vast majority of wealth continues to go to the wealthy - wealthy that isn't just made by these masterful financial savants, but on the hard work of working people. The rich get richer, as the saying goes, while the poor and middle class either get poorer or stay the same. But it isn't just a matter of outright or obvious exploitation - it is a matter of how the system works.

 

You're typing without saying anything. At best it's a load of hyperbole. You did not answer my question as to why you believe "a lot of the time, yes". You didn't answer because you have no clue. 

 

I can tell you have NEVER needed to make business decisions. You have never been an executive at a company. You have never run your own business.

[Angelsjunky]

You're typing without saying anything. At best it's a load of hyperbole. You did not answer my question as to why you believe "a lot of the time, yes". You didn't answer because you have no clue. 

 

I can tell you have NEVER needed to make business decisions. You have never been an executive at a company. You have never run your own business.

 

You're right, I've never been an executive, although my wife does run her own business and I have done independent contract work, and thus am my own business.

 

But no, I did say something but you just didn't understand. I'm talking about the big picture - our entire economic system.

[ABC]

To be fair, I don't think he's ever lived in a bedroom without Angels posters on the wall.

 

In the past I thought you were being a bit harsh on him but it is clear that he has never made a good living nor had much any business experience.

 

He comes off as a guy who has always thought that his boss is an idiot and the company is taking advantage of his mighty talents. Yet he has never created value for anyone, never had to sell anything, never had to improve a business, never created jobs and paid the employees on time, etc.

 

If he has a comfortable financial life then it is his spouse or parents who have provided it.

[ABC]

You're right, I've never been an executive, although my wife does run her own business and I have done independent contract work, and thus am my own business.

 

But no, I did say something but you just didn't understand. I'm talking about the big picture - our entire economic system.

 

LOL, look at what I just typed above. It IS YOUR SPOUSE and you HAVE NO EMPLOYEES. 

[Angelsjunky]

To be fair, I don't think he's ever lived in a bedroom without Angels posters on the wall.

 

I've actually never owned an Angels poster, but nice

 

In the past I thought you were being a bit harsh on him but it is clear that he has never made a good living nor had much any business experience.

 

He comes off as a guy who has always thought that his boss is an idiot and the company is taking advantage of his mighty talents. Yet he has never created value for anyone, never had to sell anything, never had to improve a business, never created jobs and paid the employees on time, etc.

 

If he has a comfortable financial life then it is his spouse or parents who have provided it.

 

LOL, what a prick. You do realize that there are other industries than business, than buying and selling?

 

You know nothing about me, what I do for a living. But what I do is beside the point. What I find troubling is that you seem to think that a person's viewpoint is in-valid if they don't work in business, which is like saying "you're only intelligent if you're an accountant."

 

There is a much larger, more colorful world out there beyond dollars and cents.

[Angelsjunky]

LOL, look at what I just typed above. It IS YOUR SPOUSE and you HAVE NO EMPLOYEES. 

 

Yes, I have no employees. So what? Why must I have employees? What the hell are you talking about?

[Adam]

Great example as to why democracy is lame. Candidates with no business experience can influence millions of people with no business experience to dramatically impact business.