Cespedes signs with the Mets

[Angel Oracle]

Doc summarized perfectly why Moreno needs to sell the team. He isn't in it for the long haul (no long term plan), and 13 years is enough.

Take your profit Arte Moreno, and run.

[Blarg]

I like Moreno as an owner.

[Ohtaniland]

Now that Cespedes signed with the Mets we should see if we could somehow work a deal to get Alejandro De Anza for 2016. Short term solution. He hits pretty good in Anaheim and with RISP. Good postseason performer also. Send Wilson, Nava and some cash.

Edited January 24, 2016 by CALZONE

[mulwin444]

Yeah, quick, call back Jackie Autrey and see if she can buy back the team so we can go back to good ol' days of 3 playoff appearances in 40 years.

Edited January 24, 2016 by mulwin444

[Docwaukee]

Doc summarized perfectly why Moreno needs to sell the team. He isn't in it for the long haul (no long term plan), and 13 years is enough.

Take your profit Arte Moreno, and run.

you might want to rephrase that as I didn't mention anything about whether Moreno needs to sell.  

 

I think we need to be careful what we wish for in that regard.  

[Angel Oracle]

Whatever happened to the 2000s Arte, I'll gladly take him back. Seemingly didn't meddle in player decisions.

This Arte (since 2010) is nothing like that one.

One post-season in 6 years, with extra slots available, is on the fast track towards becoming like pre-2002.

Edited January 24, 2016 by Angel Oracle

[Angel Oracle]

Now that Cespedes signed with the Mets we should see if we could somehow work a deal to get Alejandro De Anza for 2016. Short term solution. He hits pretty good in Anaheim and with RISP. Good postseason performer also. Send Wilson, Nava and some cash.

DeAza would be nice too.

[Angel Oracle]

you might want to rephrase that as I didn't mention anything about whether Moreno needs to sell.

I think we need to be careful what we wish for in that regard.

It was meant as me putting in the extra sell blurb, beyond what you said.

[mulwin444]

It's the same Arte. Spending on FAs...he bought everyone in '04. They had disastrous signings too...Colon, Guillen, Garroid, Finley. The difference is too many good years, lost draft picks and poor drafting. Now, they are maxed out on salary and he decided not to dip into well so people are freaking out which is dangerously near Yankees/Red Sox fan territory. Team is still good and they could still win

[Ohtaniland]

DeAza would be nice too.

Yes he would.

[Stradling]

Now that Cespedes signed with the Mets we should see if we could somehow work a deal to get Alejandro De Anza for 2016. Short term solution. He hits pretty good in Anaheim and with RISP. Good postseason performer also. Send Wilson, Nava and some cash.

I'm pretty sure you can't trade a player you signed as a free agent before they even play a game with you.

[Inside Pitch]

Whatever happened to the 2000s Arte, I'll gladly take him back. Seemingly didn't meddle in player decisions.

This Arte (since 2010) is nothing like that one.

One post-season in 6 years, with extra slots available, is on the fast track towards becoming like pre-2002.

 

He had a GM that forced the team to build from within and invested in Latin America.   I think there was a level of trust and a belief that he knew what he was doing.  He also stood his ground -- remember Arte's love of Tejada??    Eppler better find his nuts or it's strike three post Stoneman.

Edited January 24, 2016 by Inside Pitch

[AngelsLakersFan]

Yeah, quick, call back Jackie Autrey and see if she can buy back the team so we can go back to good ol' days of 3 playoff appearances in 40 years.

 

I think Arte has a lot in common with Gene, except everyone liked Gene, not sure if anyone likes Arte...

[Ohtaniland]

I'm pretty sure you can't trade a player you signed as a free agent before they even play a game with you.

I'm not aware of that. Oh well maybe we should've signed De whatever his name is when he was a FA for just under $6M. I'm sure that he might see the bench quite a bit now.

[Ohtaniland]

I think Arte has a lot in common with Gene, except everyone liked Gene, not sure if anyone HERE likes Arte...

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What's funny is how many Angels fans get in line to take a picture with him.

[tomsred]

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What's funny is how many Angels fans get in line to take a picture with him.

 

What's also funny is that everyone here who hates him is mad because he won't give them what they want.

[Ohtaniland]

What's also funny is that everyone here who hates him is mad because he won't give them what they want.

Spoiled brats. They want the new Buzz Lightyear toy because Woody doesn't produce anymore.

[Stradling]

Or we want him to fill holes that his ego created in the first place with the money his team generates.

[tdawg87]

This offseason has brought out the worst in this forum.

[Stradling]

This offseason has brought out the worst in this forum.

Sorry.

[Blarg]

I think Arte has a lot in common with Gene, except everyone liked Gene, not sure if anyone likes Arte...

 

Not that we are Yacht club pals but I like Moreno.

[Homebrewer]

I bet Dipoto is smiling about his decision to get out.

Worked out for him. His hands would have been tied had he stayed around, and maybe he saw that was going to be the case. 

Plus he landed another GM gig in a relative heartbeat.

Edited January 24, 2016 by Homebrewer

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Whatever happened to the 2000s Arte, I'll gladly take him back. Seemingly didn't meddle in player decisions.

This Arte (since 2010) is nothing like that one.

One post-season in 6 years, with extra slots available, is on the fast track towards becoming like pre-2002.

 

What happened, IMO, was the big television contract. Moreno felt the need to sign major names to increase visibility and market presence. Albert Pujols was one of the biggest (if not the biggest) name in the game at the time, and in order to compete with the Dodgers he felt the need to bring in well known names. As others have mentioned, obvious warning signs were ignored in the name of perceived image.

[AngelsLakersFan]

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What's funny is how many Angels fans get in line to take a picture with him.

 

Please. When has a player ever come out and talked about their reverence for Arte Moreno? The players loved Gene Autry. 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

DeAza would be nice too.

 

But only if DeAnza won't sign. Signing both of them would be too confusing.