Lots of activity coming?

[Docwaukee]

With the deadline for rule 5 protection today, a bunch of players were designated.  Some potentially useful to take a flyer on considering the lack of farm options we have.  

 

Any thoughts on some under the radar guys you'd like to see brought in?

 

I wouldn't mind taking a look at Allen Webster, Craig Gentry, Tommy Kahnle, Kirby Yates, Rex Brothers, Anthony Varvaro, AJ Griffin, Danny Hultzen and a few more.  

 

I think Eppler is going to be very active over the next bit to sign a bunch of under the radar guys who at least have an outside chance at having some sort of future impact.  

[Angel Oracle]

Hultzen was a very early first round pick originally.

[Second Base]

Webster, Brothers, Hultzen off the top of my head.

[SoWhat]

Hultzen is a sad story. If not for shoulder problems, he would've been a top of the rotation arm.

Anyway, I'd take Gentry as a 4th OFer.

[Docwaukee]

Hultzen is only 26.  I would try to convince him to pitch out of the pen to avoid further injury.  He's at the top of my list.  

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

I'd take Gentry as a 5th OF if Murphy was our 4th/pt LH DH/LH PH.....But, since the Halos are going hard after Heywood! Gentry may be all we can afford off the bench.....

[Blarg]

 I don not want to see a roster spot wasted the entire year because of waste basket players.

[Second Base]

Hultzen has to be the first one selected in the draft. By the time we pick, maybe Rex Brothers, who was outstanding before injury. Could be a shut down RP. Pick him up, work him out in Spring, if it doesn't work send him back to the Rockies.

[ettin]

Kahnle in particular interests me. Has some big league experience, mid-90's from the right side. He'd fit in early or middle relief.

 

In the Rule V I can definitely see the Angels taking a look at snagging a reliever. A corner utility INF or 4th OF might be targets too if the right one presents itself.

 

I think we're currently sitting at 35 out of 40. Figure 3-4 free agents will be signed leaving 1-2 spots on the 40. Of course the Rule V's have to be on the 25-man so probably, realistically, we will pick up no more than 1 Rule V, probably a reliever.

[Chris]

yes, yes these are very nice players...very nice players

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

for me to poop on!

[CaliAngel]

I don't know how you guys pay attention to all this shit.

[Brent Maguire]

Craig Gentry: Plus defender in all 3 OF spots, good runner, can handle lefties(100 wRC+ vs them in career). Good 4th OF option for cheap and has more certainty that Cowgill.

 

Daniel Nava: Career .358 OBP and 105 wRC+. Very good vs righties in his career(.281/.377/.409). 

 

Allen Webster: Great stuff, no results so far. I think he can find success in the pen with a low-mid 90's heater and high GB rate. 

[Docwaukee]

Maybe I am not understanding how things work.  

 

There are certain players that need to be protected by being on the 40man.  Others that are not eligible.  Yet if a guy is removed from the 40 to make room for someone else, they have essentially been DFA'd and can be claimed like anyone else that has been designated.  In order to become part of the team that DFA'd them, they have to pass through waivers.  

 

My understanding is that the guys I mentioned are actually fair game to claim.  Not eligible for the rule 5.  Those who can be taken in the rule five are unprotected players still in the org.  

 

That would mean Hultzen can be claimed off of waivers.  

 

Am I thinking about this the wrong way?

 

BTW, I think Eppler is going to sign quite a few minor league free agents.  Especially considering the fact that we have no farm system right now.  He's gonna add a bunch of guys to the upper minors in hopes that a few will stick and provide value to the major league club.  It's how he's gonna build our pen for 2016.  

[QuinlansMinion]

The Angels offseason plan should be really simple.  Sign a superstar left fielder.  Leave 2nd base alone, leave catcher alone, leave the rotation alone.  Focus all your resources on improving the pen.  

[Oz27]

Maybe I am not understanding how things work.

There are certain players that need to be protected by being on the 40man. Others that are not eligible. Yet if a guy is removed from the 40 to make room for someone else, they have essentially been DFA'd and can be claimed like anyone else that has been designated. In order to become part of the team that DFA'd them, they have to pass through waivers.

My understanding is that the guys I mentioned are actually fair game to claim. Not eligible for the rule 5. Those who can be taken in the rule five are unprotected players still in the org.

That would mean Hultzen can be claimed off of waivers.

Am I thinking about this the wrong way?

Yes. This refers to players DFAd to clear space to put other players on the 40-man roster to protect them in the Rule 5 draft. We can place a waiver claim on any or all of them. But some of those guys, Hultzen especially, will be claimed by a team with a higher waiver priority than us.

In the case of most of these players they are out of options, so to keep them they would need to stay on the 25-man roster or go through waivers to send them down. But it's very different to the Rule 5 scenario with, say, Featherston.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Yes. This refers to players DFAd to clear space to put other players on the 40-man roster to protect them in the Rule 5 draft. We can place a waiver claim on any or all of them. But some of those guys, Hultzen especially, will be claimed by a team with a higher waiver priority than us.

In the case of most of these players they are out of options, so to keep them they would need to stay on the 25-man roster or go through waivers to send them down. But it's very different to the Rule 5 scenario with, say, Featherston.

 

We don't know where we are in waiver priority, if I'm not mistake.

[Inside Pitch]

We don't know where we are in waiver priority, if I'm not mistake.

 

 

I think after the last CBA the offseason waiver order and draft order are the same.   Reverse order of overall record.

 

That would mean Hultzen can be claimed off of waivers.  

 

Am I thinking about this the wrong way?

 

Unless we both are clueless, I believe you have it right -- he's been DFA'd and all the waiver claim rules now apply...   The only way he gets exposed to the Rule V is if nobody claims him and he remains with the Ms.

[AngelsLakersFan]

I think after the last CBA the offseason waiver order and draft order are the same.   Reverse order of overall record.

 

 

Unless we both are clueless, I believe you have it right -- he's been DFA'd and all the waiver claim rules now apply...   The only way he gets exposed to the Rule V is if nobody claims him and he remains with the Ms.

 

Don't teams drop to the bottom after they put in a claim? What am I thinking of?

[Angel Oracle]

Big time LF and solid bullpen upgrade should be the focus now.

[stormngt]

Big time LF and solid bullpen upgrade should be the focus now.

Nothing wrong with that but I would be just as happy getting two above average lf and 2B and forgot the big timer. Lock down bullpen us essential. It is what made the Royals last two years made the Angels in 2002 and 2004 thru 2009. The street trade made it for us in 2014. I would rather have lock down BP over a MOJO bat in lf.

[totdprods]

If the Angels don't go with a big bat, I'd be happy if they just went well-rounded and upgraded the bench heavy, another arm for pen, someone reasonable in LF like Aoki, Parra, even Murphy, and filled out AAA with a lot of minor league FA's.

Anything to avoid relying on really thin depth throughout the year.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I don't know how you guys pay attention to all this shit.

 

I don't know 75 percent of the guys they are talking about.

[Docwaukee]

I don't know 75 percent of the guys they are talking about.

Most of the information I find is from encyclopedia britannica with the pages that have gilded edges.  

[ettin]

Most of the information I find is from encyclopedia britannica with the pages that have gilded edges.  

 

Be careful crawling around in the attic Doc, please.

[Stradling]

World Book Encyclopedia FTW