Good work, NRA

[mtangelsfan]

I don't know what you mean by "second amendment people".  You seem to want to group us altogether but that would be a mistake.

 

I think the Second Amendment does provide for folks to own guns.  I don't think it provides for "anyone, anytime, anywhere.

[Amazing Larry]

Anyway, if only Americans were as interested in stopping gun deaths as they are in stopping ISIS maybe something would get done.

 

Maybe this was ISIS or another terrorist group?

[Kevin]

It was probably Colts former pastor. Bastard terrorist.

[Spirit]

Maybe this was ISIS or another terrorist group?

 

That's racist.

[Spirit]

Predictably (as is already happening here), people on social media are jumping to conclusions and making all kinds of wild accusations.  One of my favorites is from my brother-in-law...

 

"We don't have a gun problem, we have a heart problem. Taking away guns will not heal the heart."

 

Going to respond with ...

 

"We don't have an abortion problem, we have a heart problem. Taking away abortions will not heal the heart."

 

 

Can't wait for the family Christmas events. 

[Tank]

I think that was a review of the third Mad Max movie he wrote on rotten tomatoes....two men enter, one man leaves. 

 

someone just named mad max fury road the best movie of 2015.

[Thomas]

Then why are NRA and second amendment people against tighter regulation?  Why shouldn't gun owners be required to have extensive testing done regularly?  Why aren't gun owners required to regularly prove that they are still in possession of their gun?

 

Anyway I saw this Onion headline and thought it was perfect.

 

"No Way To Prevent This," Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.

 

Gun ownership is seen as a balance against possible tyranny of the centralized authorities. Giving additional means to these authorities to restrict and track firearm ownership is seen as an erosion of this balance.

[Angelsjunky]

Gun ownership is seen as a balance against possible tyranny of the centralized authorities. Giving additional means to these authorities to restrict and track firearm ownership is seen as an erosion of this balance.

 

[Thomas]

Using the ultimate personifcation of the term redneck to criticize gun ownership motivations. Ow, my brain hurts.

[Adam]

When has a government ever oppressed its people, Thomas?

[HeavenlyHalos]

Gun ownership is seen as a balance against possible tyranny of the centralized authorities. Giving additional means to these authorities to restrict and track firearm ownership is seen as an erosion of this balance.

 

Lol at private gun owners being able to overthrow the US military. You would need said military backing or revolt to accomplish anything.

[Spirit]

Yeah.  It wouldn't work because the government has better weapons than the population.  You know why?  Because there's regulations on what kinds of guns you can get/own. 

[UndertheHalo]

posted this in the other thread, realize now its more appropriate in this one. 

 

 

as far as the 2nd amendment goes, I personally don't believe that it grants anyone the right the defend themselves or make themselves feel safer with a gun.  I do not believe that was the intended spirit of the amendment.  The way I understand it, the amendment is about maintaining local or state militias.  To that extent the citizenry can be armed in order to participate in those militias. Obviously the times have changed and we don't use militias anymore for national defense in any capacity.  Therefore, I would support a significant rework of the amendment, or its elimination out right.  I realize this isn't like some hot take, others have also made this argument.  Its just one that resounds with me and makes sense to me.  What are you guys thoughts ?

[nate]

Legalize bazookas and attack helicopters!  The second entitles us to it!

[HeavenlyHalos]

Yeah.  It wouldn't work because the government has better weapons than the population.  You know why?  Because there's regulations on what kinds of guns you can get/own. 

 

Correct. So we should all be able to own nukes and drones and shit. Oh shit, we already can own drones. And we can own shit. My god....

[Spirit]

They are arms. 

[Crampknees]

Correct. So we should all be able to own nukes and drones and shit. Oh shit, we already can own drones. And we can own shit. My god....

Wait now, I don't admit to owning my own shit. 

[Spirit]

Kurt leases with an option to buy.

[HeavenlyHalos]

They are arms. 

 

As such, we should be able to own limbs as well. Only arms though. Only paraplegics should have the ability to buy legs. I think that's why Oscar Pistorious murdered his girlfriend.

[HeavenlyHalos]

Wait now, I don't admit to owning my own shit. 

 

Do you borrow the whole anus as well?

[Crampknees]

Do you borrow the whole anus as well?

As long as I get my deposit back

[Thomas]

Lol at private gun owners being able to overthrow the US military. You would need said military backing or revolt to accomplish anything.

How effective is advanced weaponry against a civilian population? The American military is well prepared to combat other militaries anywhere in the world. It isn't as we've seen very effective at occupying and maintaining peace in territories. Territories far smaller than this country. And this is assuming 100% loyalty in the military in such a scenario.

Edited December 3, 2015 by Thomas

[the dude abides]

Legalize bazookas and attack helicopters!  The second entitles us to it!

I want a nucULar weapon!

[Spirit]

You can't.  We regulate arms.  

[Glen]

I want a tank. Not the Tank, but a tank.