Utah judge removes lesbian couple's foster child, saying she'll be better off with heterosexuals

[gotbeer]

Utah judge removes lesbian couple's foster child, saying she'll be better off with heterosexuals

 

 

Round 2.  And Fight!  

[Adam]

Gay

[Jay]

I'm gay and I want to push my personal politics on everybody.

 

how do I do that?

 

by suing over a wedding cake!

[Adam]

Oooo, touché!

 

I think Jay had that one in the chamber for a while

[Angelsjunky]

I'm gay and I want to push my personal politics on everybody.

 

how do I do that?

 

by suing over a wedding cake!

 

No, not really. A judge is a public official who shouldn't make decisions based upon his own personal bigotry. He is forcing the issue. Anyone is free to sue, which may or may not be successful.

 

The wedding cake thing was silly, but this is just f-ed up.

[mtangelsfan]

Foster kids need parents.  I'm no gay activist.  Really, I'm not gay, nor an activist but to take a foster kid away from any parents is beyond stupid and, I think, beyond the scope of what a judge should be deciding.

[Jay]

Not necessarily in favor of this ruling but merely illustrating a point that there's always somebody trying to push their personal politics on the rest of us.

 

Who knows why this judge ruled this way.

 

In the case of the wedding cake, if the judge had ruled against the gay couple would it have been because of his own personal bigotry?

 

So any time a ruling goes against a gay person is it because of bigotry?

 

That's all I'm saying.

[red321]

Judge <> Private Citizen

[Jay]

Even judges are subject to review, they are not the ultimate authority.

[Glen]

Not necessarily in favor of this ruling but merely illustrating a point that there's always somebody trying to push their personal politics on the rest of us.

Who knows why this judge ruled this way.

In the case of the wedding cake, if the judge had ruled against the gay couple would it have been because of his own personal bigotry?

So any time a ruling goes against a gay person is it because of bigotry?

That's all I'm saying.

The article clearly states the kids were removed because the parents were gay, but yeah, who knows why the judge ruled this way.

[Tank]

i'm wondering why this case ended up in front of a judge. or was this the final step in the adoption process?

[red321]

i'm wondering why this case ended up in front of a judge. or was this the final step in the adoption process?

 

Regular review, apparently as part of the Utah foster program they go in front of the judge for a review on a regular basis

[Jay]

The article clearly states the kids were removed because the parents were gay, but yeah, who knows why the judge ruled this way.

 

of course they were removed because the parents were gay.

 

dumbass

[Adam]

Utah

 

 

 

[red321]

The article clearly states the kids were removed because the parents were gay, but yeah, who knows why the judge ruled this way.

 

But Wednesday, a Utah judge decided to end this plan, ordering the girl removed from her foster home because the child would be better off with heterosexual parents, he said.

 

 

Yep...total mystery

[Glen]

of course they were removed because the parents were gay.

dumbass

If I was as clueless as you I'd be crabby too.

[Kevin]

It's actually part of a bigger thing going on in relation to Mormon culture. Last week the lds church released a policy stating that kids, whether adopted or biological, could not be blessed or baptized into the lds church if they were living with parents who were in a same sex relationship. They must wait till their 18, move out of the parents home, and disavow the parents practice before being allowed to join.

The policy didn't state if the ban extended to kids who split time between a straight and gay parent. Ironically kids who lived in homes where a straight parent had pre marital sex are still allowed to join the church (any sex, hetero or homosexual, is viewed as a serious transgression when it falls outside the definition of marriage between one man and one woman in the lds church. Insert joke about polygamy.)

Edited November 12, 2015 by Kevin

[juansavage1]

Everything else being equal, of course it's  better. It's closer to the natural family.

Edited November 13, 2015 by Juan Savage

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Regular review, apparently as part of the Utah foster program they go in front of the judge for a review on a regular basis

 

So the foster parents were fine at the time of placement, but now they are unsuitable. I see.

[Crampknees]

Reading the story it seems this judge has issues with many other things besides a same sex couple.  He is apparently just a douche. 

[Crampknees]

I'm gay and I want to push my personal politics on everybody.

 

how do I do that?

 

by suing over a wedding cake!

I knew it!

[Angelsjunky]

My favorite part of this thread is this:

 

mtangelsfan: "really, I'm not gay."

 

We know, mt, we know.

 

Not necessarily in favor of this ruling but merely illustrating a point that there's always somebody trying to push their personal politics on the rest of us.

 

Who knows why this judge ruled this way.

 

In the case of the wedding cake, if the judge had ruled against the gay couple would it have been because of his own personal bigotry?

 

So any time a ruling goes against a gay person is it because of bigotry?

 

That's all I'm saying.

 

Jay, I'd like to know how anyone is pushing their personal politics on you. Are you so offended by this that even seeing it in the news is tantamount to being pushed?

 

And as far as I can tell, you are the only person in this thread that has said anything akin to "any time a ruling goes against a gay person it is because of bigotry." The wedding cake thing and this are completely separate issues.

[Jay]

Actually maybe the judge honestly believes he is doing what's best for the child.

 

In that case he's not pushing his political beliefs on us, he's just doing his job.

 

Unlike the wedding cake incident.

[juansavage1]

You guys don't think it's best for kids to be as close to the child-producing norm as possible? 

[Glen]

Actually maybe the judge honestly believes he is doing what's best for the child.

In that case he's not pushing his political beliefs on us, he's just doing his job.

Unlike the wedding cake incident.

How is that not pushing his political beliefs?