Official 2015-2016 Hot Stove Thread

[Cdaniel]

Yeah, that's basically the only way he gets traded.

Explain what a team like Colorado would want with CJ Wilson?

They can flip him at the trade deadline for prospects.

[tdawg87]

They can flip him at the trade deadline for prospects.

 

And what if he gets hurt or sucks?

[Cdaniel]

And what if he gets hurt or sucks?

That's a risk they take with any trade or FA signing.

[LAA Road Tripper]

I'm almost thinking one of those two will sign a one year deal and come back to the market when it is truely lacking in any kind of substance.

I could see this with Upton but not with Cespedes. Dude could have a great year but even with a dry class next year he's another year older. He needs his money now.

[tdawg87]

That's a risk they take with any trade or FA signing.

 

They're rebuilding. Why would they bother to take that risk? It makes zero sense.

 

Just trade CarGo and get those prospects now.

[Cdaniel]

They're rebuilding. Why would they bother to take that risk? It makes zero sense.

Just trade CarGo and get those prospects now.

Maybe COL likes the package of Trop and Bedrock and trading CJ at the deadline is icing on the cake. I have no clue if they'd do that or even want to. You asked "why would they" and I was just trying to throw out a reason.

[Docwaukee]

CJ Wilson has zero value to a team that isn't contending.  Why would they make our problem their problem ie why would they take on the responsibility of finding value for him and give us value in return?  

[Cdaniel]

CJ Wilson has zero value to a team that isn't contending. Why would they make our problem their problem ie why would they take on the responsibility of finding value for him and give us value in return?

I get what you and T-dawg are saying. I didn't suggest the trade.

[Docwaukee]

I get what you and T-dawg are saying. I didn't suggest the trade.

I know.  That's why I didn't quote your post.  

[Blarg]

And what if he gets hurt or sucks?

 

They can get driving tips.

 

invaluable.

[DailyHalo]

Cdaniel has the right idea and Tropeano isn't under anyone's radar anymore. 

[gotbeer]

Marlins To Sign Wei-Yin Chen

5/$80 is what my phone alerted me it was.

[Angel Oracle]

That sounds about right for Chen.   He's definitely better than Leake, who got similar money.

[JAHV76]

Another Boras client i doubt the Angels were interested

[Jim]

wilson only has value to a contending team. he's probably worth more to the halos than in trade. He actually more of a potential deadline deal guy if the Angels are out of it. Oddly enough, Wilson probably brings some stability to the rotation.

Without him, you are looking at filling the 4/5 with Weaver, Tropeano, Shoemaker or Skaggs. That's a lot of question marks at this point.

I believe Wilson is the type of pitcher Colorado would want in a trade for Blackmon. If only Colorado could be more assured of Wilson's health.

[Angel Oracle]

Day 33 of Cespedes/Upton held hostage

Only a month until ST

[wopphil]

Day 33 of Cespedes/Upton held hostage

Only a month until ST

How does this compare to other famous hostage situations? Do you think Upton/Cespedes can challenge the 1979 Iran hostage situation?

[gotbeer]

How does this compare to other famous hostage situations? Do you think Upton/Cespedes can challenge the 1979 Iran hostage situation?

 

Watching the news tonight.  There was a huge hostage situation in Iran.  News think it's a war worthy incident.

[tdawg87]

Day 33 of Cespedes/Upton held hostage

Only a month until ST

 

AO, you've posted this several times but I'm interested in knowing why you think these guys are "being held hostage" by the owners, or what that even means.

 

Perhaps it's the other way around? Maybe both players have ludicrous asking prices and are unwilling to lower them even a little bit.

[halosfan1970]

AO, you've posted this several times but I'm interested in knowing why you think these guys are "being held hostage" by the owners, or what that even means.

 

Perhaps it's the other way around? Maybe both players have ludicrous asking prices and are unwilling to lower them even a little bit.

 

For once AO is mildly amusing. Thank you AO. That's better than being willfully obtuse. 

[Angel Oracle]

AO, you've posted this several times but I'm interested in knowing why you think these guys are "being held hostage" by the owners, or what that even means.

Perhaps it's the other way around? Maybe both players have ludicrous asking prices and are unwilling to lower them even a little bit.

Partly meant in jest, partly commenting on the sudden change in FA signings

It's not a bad thing, anything is better than bloated contracts. Upton/Cespedes are not declining superstars, but if they are asking for 6 years/$150 million then they are barking up the wrong tree.

I guess it also shows how much more pitching is valued? Both Grienke and Price get $200+. million, Cueto gets $130 million, and even Leake gets $80 million.

Edited January 14, 2016 by Angel Oracle

[Angel Oracle]

Watching the news tonight. There was a huge hostage situation in Iran. News think it's a war worthy incident.

The world has gone back to 1979 again?

I guess the saying is right? The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Broad Street]

Collusion!

[Stradling]

It is going to be tough to call collusion when all of these pitchers were just paid like they are Kershaw.

[Blarg]

From MLB Trade Rumors.

 

The Orioles have avoided arbitration with first baseman/outfielder/DH Mark Trumbo, according to ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick (via Twitter). Trumbo will earn $9.15MM for the coming season, per the report, before reaching free agency next winter.

 

Is Trumbo the Chris Davis replacement?