Grienke Officially Opts Out

[disarcina]

why is it that despite the guy's numbers (and I still think Kershaw was clearly the better pitcher on the Dodgers and if I had to pick one -- I'd pick Kershaw -- which the Dodgers have done), I just would not throw a lot of money at this guy?

 

He seems fairly fragile to me and the kind of guy who would immediately land on the DL for an extended period of time after signing a huge multi-year deal.

 

Give me a gamer like Kershaw or Bumgarner (I know they're not available) any day over this guy.

 

Yankees may bust the bank paying for him - they could use rotation help -- what team doesn't need that?  Perhaps the Nationals and the great rotation they have didn't get them into the playoffs this year -- ask Matt Williams -- Nats should hire Bud Black.

[disarcina]

Greinke has been here, done that for the Halos.

[Inside Pitch]

Yeah, opting out shows that he really doesn't give a rat's ass who he plays for, he just wants to be paid.

 

He's a much better fit for the NL though.  In that last game he was really good in all aspects of the game.  Dodgers should just go ahead and pay him.

 

He's said as much..   I know that some hate him for being so open about it but at least he's been completely honest about it.

[Inside Pitch]

Or the Dodgers could tap into Price and let Greinke play somewhere else.

 

Freidman knows Price...   There are management/front office ties to Price in both LA and Chicago, that should make it kind of interesting.

Edited October 17, 2015 by Inside Pitch

[ettin]

One thing that I don't think people are quite getting is the fact that generally speaking free agent prices rise by about 10% on a $$$ per WAR basis. Depending on who you ask last year free agent $$$ per WAR was about $6MM-7MM.

 

Additionally general economical inflation also impacts the free agent market. Finally baseball teams are flush with cash and there are several team that have money to spend and pitching is always in demand.

 

All of this adds up to $30MM being the new benchmark as Shane said above. Position players probably won't go quite as high but that is the reason I sincerely believe Jason Heyward will get $25MM per year and because of his age he'll get 10 years in all likelihood.

[Broad Street]

According to SportsCenter, Greinke is going to test free agency. No garuntee that he goes back to the Dodgers. Houston could use him, but I don't see them shelling out that much cash.

[IEAngelsfan]

He's said as much..   I know that some hate him for being so open about it but at least he's been completely honest about it.

 

[TooCool]

Hoping Scioscia opts out and leaves... so Grienke can come back here.

[CaliAngel]

Grienke is over rated. He does just enough to lose. When ever you see him face another ace on other team, usually Grienke teams end up losing 4-3, 3-2, 2-1. He is a good pitcher, but doesn't rise to the occasion to elite ACE in big games.

I really agree with this. It might not be popular, but I would pass on a Greinke signing.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I really agree with this. It might not be popular, but I would pass on a Greinke signing.

i get the passing on him, but i dont think hes overrated. If hes losing its because hes played for flawed teams...KC, Mill, Us, the current dogs

Last years dogs team was more complete (but still had holes)....he did his job, kershaw didnt

[Vegas Halo Fan]

If there is a bidding war for Greinke and the Dodgers and Yankees are the two main suitors, that is a battle that we shouldn't pay enough to win.

[Oz27]

If there is a bidding war for Greinke and the Dodgers and Yankees are the two main suitors, that is a battle that we shouldn't pay enough to win.

Pretty much. There was talk earlier in the thread about 5/125 and that isn't going to come close to cutting it. If we could get Zac to first I'd fly to LA and then drive him to Anaheim to sign the contract myself. 6/180 I wouldn't surprise me but I imagine he will get something like 5/150 or 6/165 and that's probably too much for us.

[Second Base]

If only we had spent that Josh Hamilton money on Greinke and Torii instead. Then we'd have an ace and wouldn't have lied to and alienated one of the better players in this franchise's history.

[Glen]

At least this year if we sign a big-money pitcher we won't hear about how his salary is an affront to Weaver.

[Broad Street]

If only we had spent that Josh Hamilton money on Greinke and Torii instead. Then we'd have an ace and wouldn't have lied to and alienated one of the better players in this franchise's history.

Is Hunter really one of the better players in franchise history?

[Stradling]

If only we had spent that Josh Hamilton money on Greinke and Torii instead. Then we'd have an ace and wouldn't have lied to and alienated one of the better players in this franchise's history.

So youre suggesting we could have signed Greinke and Hunter for less than Greinke signed for with the Dodgers? Oh and let's just say we did what it would take to sign Greinke three years ago, guess what? We would still be looking for an ace because Greinke would have opted out.

[papawealey]

He's 32. He's enigmatic.He's greedy. There's every possibility his arm is about to fall off.

 

All hallmarks of a terrible free agency signing.

 

Let the Dodgers clamor and plead for him.

[Tank]

I'd kick the tires on him. Weaver is fading fast, and CJ is a girly man. We need a big guy at the top.

[Homebrewer]

I'd kick the tires on him. Weaver is fading fast, and CJ is a girly man. We need a big guy at the top.

Grienke wears a man bun, so he and CJ might request adjoining lockers.

[Stradling]

Holy shit, HB used the quote function.

[ten ocho recon scout]

The problem is, what if we sign murphy to play 2B? How would he feel about playing with a lesbian like grienke?

[Stradling]

The problem is, what if we sign murphy to play 2B? How would he feel about playing with a lesbian like grienke?

I want to like this more than once.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I want to like this more than once.

in the spirit of grienke, like it, then opt out of the like, and then like it more somehow.

And then take a selfie where you look like billy jean king and skeletor had a baby.

[DoubleOffTheWall]

Wouldn't go near grienke. I would consider a look at zimmerman or the shark.

[Homebrewer]

Holy shit, HB used the quote function.

Most of the time I can't because I'm on a secured computer system that won't use certain HTML functions.

Today I'm at home.