Grienke Officially Opts Out

[nando714]

He's out of dodgertown.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Wonder how much more they pay him now

[fan_since79]

Greinke turns 32 next week. 

 

A perfect fit for Arte and the Angels.

[Jay]

Greinke turns 32 next week.

And nobody knows that better than Greinke. He's trying to make as much money as he can before his career is over.

[AngelsLakersFan]

That was fast

[fan_since79]

And nobody knows that better than Greinke. He's trying to make as much money as he can before his career is over.

 

In this economy, $71 million doesn't go as far as it used to. I hope the guy gets a better deal so he can support his family through these hard times.

[JAHV76]

I bet the Gisnts go hard after him they have money to spend and pitching is s big need.

[Angelsjunky]

He's thinking "lowest ERA in twenty years" (since Maddux in 1994-95). Greinke is an excellent pitcher, but he's not as good as that 1.66 ERA would entail. He's more of a 2.50 - 3.00 ERA pitcher, which is still "staff ace" material but he's also 32.

 

That said, Greinke is the type of pitcher who will remain good into his mid-30s, maybe even into his late 30s. Still, he's going to want 7ish years and $25 million per year. Not sure Arte wants to pay 7/$175M for a 32-year old pitcher.

[fan_since79]

Better than 10/$250 for a 32-year old who hits a lot of solo home runs and ground balls to the left side of the infield.

[Blarg]

He's out of dodgertown.

 

As much as A-Rod is out of New York after he opted out.

[gotbeer]

As much as A-Rod is out of New York after he opted out.

 

Or CC when he opted out.  

CC opted out of 4/$92.  CC then got a 5/$122.  

 

Greinke opted out of 3/$71.  Probably looking for around a 5/$125, which would put him at 36/37 at the end of his contract.  Someone will pay the man his money.

[Blarg]

The Dodgers biggest competitor right now for Grienke is the Yankees. After 2017 the Yankees shed $65 million in payroll.

[Inside Pitch]

He's thinking "lowest ERA in twenty years" (since Maddux in 1994-95). Greinke is an excellent pitcher, but he's not as good as that 1.66 ERA would entail. He's more of a 2.50 - 3.00 ERA pitcher, which is still "staff ace" material but he's also 32.

 

That said, Greinke is the type of pitcher who will remain good into his mid-30s, maybe even into his late 30s. Still, he's going to want 7ish years and $25 million per year. Not sure Arte wants to pay 7/$175M for a 32-year old pitcher.

 

He's got that Mike Mussina mix of stuff and guile...   Probably the best bet among pending FA pitchers.

[Stradling]

Ok, what would you be willing to pay him to come to the Angels and what do you think he will get? I would be willing to offer him the same deal they thought he would agree to three years ago, 5 years $125 million. What do I think he will get, probably 6 years $162 million, right around $27 million a year. He will probably stay in the NL since he likes to hit and would probably have to be blown away in order to come back to the AL, that is when you see the 7th or even 8th year added to his deal.

I found it interesting to learn recently that he has a real interest in a front office position after his playing days are done and that he loves analyzing young players. This Grienke is a different guy than the one that started his career and had social anxiety issues and almost failed because of it. In a weird way I am almost "proud" (not really the right word) of his growth as a person the last several years, good for him. Not sure they are allowed to tack on a personal services type of contract on his players contract to give him a front office gig, but if you can, that might be the way to sign him and give you an edge over the competition.

[Inside Pitch]

As much as A-Rod is out of New York after he opted out.

 

Yep, thats the first thing I thought too.  Had the thread been named "Greinke officially requests pay increase" it would have been just as accurate.

[Blarg]

Replace demands for requests and you're on target.

Edited October 17, 2015 by notti

[Stradling]

Yep, thats the first thing I thought too. Had the thread been named "Greinke officially requests pay increase" it would have been just as accurate.

Or Greinke officially asks for extention it would have been accurate as well.

[Blarg]

Opting out isn't a polite request.

[Stradling]

Opting out isn't a polite request.

No but it was agreed upon in the contract negotiations and was a foregone conclusion he would opt out if he pitched well leading up to the opt out. The final 3 years and $71 million was basically his insurance policy in case he got hurt or became ineffective.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

That was really fast.

It's not popular, but I'd make a hard run at him.

[gotbeer]

 Not sure they are allowed to tack on a personal services type of contract on his players contract to give him a front office gig, but if you can, that might be the way to sign him and give you an edge over the competition.

 

After Pujols did his, they made it so you can't anymore.  I believe.

[Jay]

Yeah, opting out shows that he really doesn't give a rat's ass who he plays for, he just wants to be paid.

 

He's a much better fit for the NL though.  In that last game he was really good in all aspects of the game.  Dodgers should just go ahead and pay him.

[seenoevil]

Grienke is over rated. He does just enough to lose. When ever you see him face another ace on other team, usually Grienke teams end up losing 4-3, 3-2, 2-1. He is a good pitcher, but doesn't rise to the occasion to elite ACE in big games.

[Blarg]

You're really good at this.

[nando714]

I think if grienke goes back to la it's bc some guys in that clubhouse are gone. Puig (cough, cough)

I think he ends up with the Cubs