10/14/15 TEX @ TOR, ALDS Game 5

[CanadianHalo]

The thing is the Ump is waving the play dead before Odor scores

[nando714]

Now they're reviewing it

Would laugh if they put odor back at 3rd

[Hollyw00d]

Shouldn't that be interference on Choo's part? He was sticking his bat over the plate.

Disagree. Also time was never called

[Adam]

What a f'n HORRIBLE way to lose

 

Its only the 7th inning

[rick99gtp]

Interesting, so if the home plate umpire calls the play dead - then Odor should be at third base regardless, right?

[Hollyw00d]

The ball also never went foul

[nando714]

Interesting, so if the home plate umpire calls the play dead - then Odor should be at third base regardless, right?

They're reviewing it

[Hollyw00d]

Interesting, so if the home plate umpire calls the play dead - then Odor should be at third base regardless, right?

Yes, the inning wont end

[hen3ry]

Now under video review... review of what exactly, I wonder.  But whichever team this eventually goes against _has_ to play the remainder of the game under protest.  (Assuming the Jays fans don't trigger a forfeit at this point)

 

I _think_ however that the ball is live while the catcher has possession and is returning it to the pitcher.  Hitting the bat, that's the catcher's fault there, unless the batter is obviously trying to obstruct.  Which means the call should go in Texas' favor.

[Adam]

You would think the ball hitting the bat would be dead

[Hollyw00d]

The catcher f'd up imo

[Angel Oracle]

Russell Martin is a former Raviner, what else does anyone expect?

And a native Canadian to boot, I wonder how they will react to him going forward, if Toronto loses.

Edited October 14, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[laagamer]

There is no such thing as "accidental" interference. 

 

As an umpire, my ruling is play stands. There was no interference. Choo was in the his box. 

[Blarg]

There is batter interference when a batter does exactly what Choo did as the catcher attempts to throw the runner out. Why should this be any different? 

 

I think the argument is there was no play being made and Choo was not outside of the batters box with his hand. So it is the catchers own dumb fault for throwing at his hand, he had a clear path to return the ball to the pitcher.

[Hollyw00d]

Canada sucks

[Angel Oracle]

And still, no Canadian team has won a Stanley Cup since 1993, the same year the Blue Jays won the 2nd of back-to-back WS titles.

Edited October 14, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[Hollyw00d]

There's a brawl coming lol

[Hollyw00d]

And still, no Canadian team has won a Stanley Cup since 1993.

Haha WTF

So random

[Adam]

I'm cool with Toronto losing on that play. 

[CanadianHalo]

Ump calling play dead before the run scored... Imo he f'd up but with him calling it dead initially that's what it has to stay

[nando714]

And still, no Canadian team has won a Stanley Cup since 1993, the same year the Blue Jays won the 2nd of back-to-back WS titles.

There's gotta be some kinda long beach st connection

[beatlesrule]

I didn't see what happened and I am not able to watch the game but from what I've read, the run should count. I've never heard or seen this ever happen.

[Erstad Grit]

I think the argument is there was no play being made and Choo was not outside of the batters box with his hand. So it is the catchers own dumb fault for throwing at his hand, he had a clear path to return the ball to the pitcher.

 

yup

 

if the batter is in the box it's the catcher's responsibility to throw around them.

 

I have unfortunately called batters out who left the box in an attempt at getting out of the way of the catcher but ended up interfering. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

There is batter interference when a batter does exactly what Choo did as the catcher attempts to throw the runner out. Why should this be any different? 

 

Choo never interfered, he's just standing in the box. The rule also states that if Choo did interfere he is out. I can't imagine calling him out in that case when that was 100% Martin's fault.

 

Good call.

[Angel Oracle]

1993 was LB State's best baseball season, one 9th inning rally by LSU away from playing Wichita State for the CWS title.