Hey Arch, got some wine?

[gotbeer]

UK Pensioner Faces 350 Lashes In Saudi Arabia

 

 

Yikes.  

[Crampknees]

harsh

[Glen]

****ing barbarians.  So glad they have a seat on the Human Rights Council at the UN.  What a joke.

[arch stanton]

I can't see the story but I assume he was selling to the locals? I don't do it anymore but I used to make a ton of whiskey. And to tell you the truth they don't go looking for it on the compounds because they know it keeps us from bailing.

[gotbeer]

 

The family of a British pensioner have urged David Cameron to personally intervene to stop Saudi Arabia giving him 350 lashes.

 

Karl Andree, 74, was arrested in Jeddah in August last year after bottles of home-made wine were found in his car by police in the strict, alcohol-free kingdom, The Sun reported.

He is being held in the Red Sea city's Briman Prison, which has a reputation for torture and overcrowded cells, as Saudi officials consider how to carry out the second part of his punishment - a public flogging.

The oil executive's three children Hugh, 46, Kirsten, 45, and Simon, 33, fear the punishment will kill him, as he is already weak from fighting cancer.

They have been lobbying for more than a month, but so far all their pleas to the Foreign Office and Saudi government have failed.

Simon told The Sun: "Our father has given 25 years of his working life to Saudi Arabia, and this is how he is treated. Until his arrest, he has always been happy working there and felt safe.

"He is 74 years of age, has had cancer 3 times and his wife is dying in a home in the UK.

"He now needs medical care for his cancer and Asthma, and there is no doubt in our mind that 350 lashes will kill him.

"We implore David Cameron to personally intervene and help get our father home. The Saudi Government will only listen to him."

 

 

A Foreign Office spokesman told Sky News: "Our embassy staff are continuing to assist Mr Andree, including regular visits to check on his welfare, and frequent contact with his lawyer and family.

 

"Ministers and senior officials have raised Mr Andree’s case with the Saudi Government and we are actively seeking his release as soon as possible."

Last month, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn called for Mr Cameron to intervene to try to save the life of a Saudi teenager who is due to be beheaded.

Ali Mohammed al Nimr was reportedly sentenced to death for his part in anti-government protests, including breaking allegiance to the king and rioting.

He was 17 when he allegedly committed the crimes.

 

 

Doesn't say if he was selling or not.  

[arch stanton]

He had it in his car. It should never leave the compound. He may have been set up or sold out by his native friends.

[Adam]

He's an idiot for having the booze

[Spirit]

Can you imagine the number of DUI deaths we could eliminate in this country if we had a common sense approach to alcohol like this?  

 

But yeah, let's not even talk about it.

[Adam]

Country has laws. Man has been there for 25 years. He knows laws. He violates law. I wouldn't make a call if I were Cameron

[nate]

I agree that the guy is an idiot and he definitely knew the laws he was breaking and the punishment for it.

 

However, how could we ally with a country that hands out punishments in lashings and beheads people who protest against the government?

[Adam]

I agree that the guy is an idiot and he definitely knew the laws he was breaking and the punishment for it.

 

However, how could we ally with a country that hands out punishments in lashings and beheads people who protest against the government?

 

We shouldn't 

[Spirit]

He lives with Juan?

[Glen]

I agree that the guy is an idiot and he definitely knew the laws he was breaking and the punishment for it.

However, how could we ally with a country that hands out punishments in lashings and beheads people who protest against the government?

Agree. 350 lashes is a cruel death sentence.

[Amazing Larry]

I heard it stops hurting after the first 100 lashes.

[Amazing Larry]

So he's got that going for him.

[Amazing Larry]

Which is nice.

[Spirit]

[Tank]

Country has laws. Man has been there for 25 years. He knows laws. He violates law. I wouldn't make a call if I were Cameron

 

the law has to be applied fairly. there's room for punishment and compassion here.

 

the saudi's need to make their point that they won't tolerate alcohol, but the punishment needs to fit the crime. 350 lashes to a 74 man dealing with cancer is like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer. 

[Amazing Larry]

the saudi's need to make their point that they won't tolerate alcohol, but the punishment needs to fit the crime.

Or else what?

[mtangelsfan]

We won't buy their oil anymore?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Tank]

Or else what?

 

or else we're going to say things that hurt their feelings.

[Amazing Larry]

or else we're going to say things that hurt their feelings.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIPSvIz9NDs

[arch stanton]

I think there may be more to this story that just having a few bottles of wine in the car.

[Mark68]

Didn't the Saudis learn from our Prohibition? You make alcohol illegal and people will find a way anyway. Cuz people need to drink.

 

 

Especially if they live in Saudi Arabia.